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post Sep 14 2007, 08:02 AM
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FROM: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6993373.stm


Firms interested in trying for the prize have until the end of 2012 to mount their Moonshot

Anyone fancy a crack at this?

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post Sep 14 2007, 02:57 PM
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This Google prize is getting a LOT of media attention, so perhaps that's the whole objective. Notice also that they're offering $5M bonuses for visiting "historical sites", which of course would mean Apollo landing sites.

Still...$30M isn't much of an incentive, unless it's meant to help an aspiring company recoup at least some of its development costs. Presumably any company that could pull this off would be "made", though, and perhaps become a prime govt contractor for lunar exploration someday...something like a super MSSS.

Doug's right, though; at the end of the day, it's hard to figure out what Google's real angle is in this; they need more publicity like I need more alimony. Do you suppose that they're so rich that true philanthrophy is their core motivation? blink.gif (Nah...I don't think so either!)

EDIT: Horrible thought- Rover lands at Tranquility Base, drives right over Neil's first footprint on the Moon... sad.gif


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post Sep 14 2007, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE (nprev @ Sep 14 2007, 03:57 PM) *
EDIT: Horrible thought- Rover lands at Tranquility Base, drives right over Neil's first footprint on the Moon... sad.gif

Would that not have been scoured off during the LEM ascent stage lift off? Or trodden on by Aldrin before that?

Still, I think an exclusion zone around the current landing sites might be in order. Until the Heritage Infrastructure has built up a bit. ;-)

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post Sep 14 2007, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE (AndyG @ Sep 14 2007, 10:49 AM) *
Would that not have been scoured off during the LEM ascent stage lift off? Or trodden on by Aldrin before that?

Still, I think an exclusion zone around the current landing sites might be in order. Until the Heritage Infrastructure has built up a bit. ;-)

Andy

Hmmm.. that first bootprint was almost certainly overtrodden by both Armstrong *and* Aldrin durng the course of the EVA. It was just off the footpad, after all, on the side of the footpad facing the MESA, and they did a lot of work at the MESA.

But for the whole scene, overall, I think that Tranquility Base ought to remain untouched and "unsullied" for now. I'd have no problems with rovers visiting any of the other five Apollo landing sites -- they're historical, but not so much as that first one. A few more rover tracks wouldn't damage anything at, say, Hadley or Taurus-Littrow. Or even at Fra Mauro.

In fact, I think Fra Mauro would be a great place for an unmanned rover. Work it right and we might *finally* get to look into Cone Crater. I think it would be appropriate to allow Ed Mitchell to drive a rover right up to Cone's rim and be the first to look inside... or maybe, if Ed can't do it, let Jim Lovell and Fred Haise do it!

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post Sep 17 2007, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Sep 14 2007, 07:08 PM) *
But for the whole scene, overall, I think that Tranquility Base ought to remain untouched and "unsullied" for now. I'd have no problems with rovers visiting any of the other five Apollo landing sites -- they're historical, but not so much as that first one. A few more rover tracks wouldn't damage anything at, say, Hadley or Taurus-Littrow. Or even at Fra Mauro.
In fact, I think Fra Mauro would be a great place for an unmanned rover. Work it right and we might *finally* get to look into Cone Crater. I think it would be appropriate to allow Ed Mitchell to drive a rover right up to Cone's rim and be the first to look inside... or maybe, if Ed can't do it, let Jim Lovell and Fred Haise do it!
-the other Doug

I like these ideas O Doug, lot of souvenirs....

I like also Nprev's : Heck, I vote for Apollo 12; it's a two-fer, along with Surveyor 3!

but because Apollo 12 is the only site where we didn't get LIVE TV transmissions wink.gif


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|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 14 2007, 07:15 AM)...   Sep 14 2007, 03:21 PM
- - nprev   This Google prize is getting a LOT of media attent...   Sep 14 2007, 02:57 PM
|- - Paolo Amoroso   QUOTE (nprev @ Sep 14 2007, 04:57 PM) Not...   Sep 14 2007, 03:46 PM
|- - AndyG   QUOTE (nprev @ Sep 14 2007, 03:57 PM) EDI...   Sep 14 2007, 03:49 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (AndyG @ Sep 14 2007, 10:49 AM) Wou...   Sep 14 2007, 05:08 PM
|- - climber   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Sep 14 2007, 07:08 PM) ...   Sep 17 2007, 05:18 PM
- - marsbug   What about the five million dollar secound prize? ...   Sep 14 2007, 03:43 PM
- - AscendingNode   So google will give $20 million to the first ...   Sep 14 2007, 04:22 PM
- - djellison   Thinking out loud - if you can get to GEO as a pig...   Sep 14 2007, 05:14 PM
- - nprev   Yeah; I was wondering about opportune piggybacks a...   Sep 14 2007, 05:23 PM
|- - Jim from NSF.com   QUOTE (nprev @ Sep 14 2007, 01:23 PM) Yea...   Sep 28 2007, 12:35 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (Jim from NSF.com @ Sep 28 2007, 04...   Dec 4 2007, 03:59 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Well, the artifacts need not be Apollo - they coul...   Sep 14 2007, 05:24 PM
- - nprev   The Google link that AscendingNode posted had a pr...   Sep 14 2007, 05:32 PM
- - nprev   Beginning to wonder if they're just trying to ...   Sep 15 2007, 01:49 AM
- - dvandorn   I think it's worth pointing out, here, that Go...   Sep 15 2007, 05:22 AM
- - tuvas   Something else that no one has said about Google b...   Sep 15 2007, 01:48 PM
- - tuvas   Oh, just to talk a little about the Apollo landing...   Sep 15 2007, 01:49 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (tuvas @ Sep 15 2007, 02:49 PM) Apo...   Sep 15 2007, 02:03 PM
|- - tuvas   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 15 2007, 07:03 AM)...   Sep 20 2007, 03:30 AM
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- - cndwrld   I was at the International Aeronautical Congress c...   Oct 1 2007, 11:44 AM
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