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 Sep 24 2007, 04:24 PM
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Any word on the second stage being "go" at fueling today?
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Sep 24 2007, 04:27 PM
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Second stage fueling has been completed.
Launch weather outlook is favorable with a 30% chance of violation. -------------------- |
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Sep 24 2007, 04:45 PM
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Awesome! Thanks Ben
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Sep 25 2007, 11:38 AM
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All...
NASA TV briefings on DAWN today, Tuesday, September 25th, 2007 September 25, Tuesday (all times EDT) 10 a.m. - Replay of Dawn Mission Science Briefing (Recorded in July) - HQ (Public and Media Channels) 1 p.m. - Dawn Mission Pre-Launch News Conference - KSC (Public and Media Channels) 4 p.m. - Replay of Dawn Mission Pre-Launch News Conference (Followed by Replay of Dawn Mission Science Briefing (Recorded in July) - HQ (Public and Media Channels) Go to http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html and you may be able to view online. Please note that NASA TV quite often changes its scehdule on the fly... so these may or may not play on time. Craig |
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Sep 25 2007, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE (mars loon @ Sep 24 2007, 02:39 PM)  Hey Tom, thanks for the citation. yeah the weather was quite awful down here today. thunder and buckets of rain. hopefully better tomorrow ken I could see during the conference that you don't call yourself "mars loon" for nothing : good question about science at Mars... and the one about life too. I hope you've got a better answer by now on this one than during the conference ! Thanks Ken -------------------- |
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Sep 25 2007, 11:19 PM
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Sep 26 2007, 10:06 AM
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 Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
If someone's interested I've made a quick and dirty animation of the Ceres images obtained by Keck to today's spacEurope post about the mission.
I'm sure someone must have already done similar and with better quality by I couldn't find it. We haven't leave the ground and I can't already wait to get there... 
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Sep 27 2007, 03:16 AM
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The Mobile Service Tower has rolled back... The Delta II is now completely out in the open.
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Sep 27 2007, 07:49 AM
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I noticed the timeline after launch in this blog entry says the groundlit SRBs are jettisoned at T+1 min 20 s. Most of the Delta II launches I saw had the boosters separated right after burnout, at 65-ish seconds, but a couple of them held on to the groundlits longer. What's up with that?
Seems like carrying deadweight for no reason. Is this one of those booster disposal considerations similar to those weird dogleg maneuvers after sep? -------------------- |
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Sep 27 2007, 08:07 AM
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"but a couple of them held on to the groundlits longer. What's up with that? "
I THINK they said in the prelaunch briefing that they're bigger strapons that burn longer. this is a Delta-II heavy. Another interesting thing in the briefing was a response to a question about science during the mars flyby. They will do a full science run, but only at and after closest approach. The approach to Mars is from the nightside at a 160 degree phase angle... extremely narrow crescent 20 deg from the sun. |
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Sep 27 2007, 08:20 AM
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Any recent news regarding the weather?
I've receive an e-mail from Chris Russell, Dawn's PI, about this: "Everything is AOK here (at Kennedy Space Center) except, as usual, the weather is wet on and off and we will not know if we have the conditions that permit launch until tomorrow (today) morning at 0720 EDT (1240 UTC - 0240 HST)". This was already 9 hours ago, any developments? -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Sep 27 2007, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE (edstrick @ Sep 27 2007, 10:07 AM) I THINK they said in the prelaunch briefing that they're bigger strapons that burn longer. this is a Delta-II heavy. That would make sense, but there's still for example this video (ffwd to 03:40). Granted, this was a Vandenberg launch so it was likely a booster disposal thing. Coincidentally, that's one of the best RocketCams I've seen on a Delta II - excellent video quality, but the rocket executed the weirdest maneuvers ever. I wonder how much maneuvers like that affect payload capacity. -------------------- |
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Sep 27 2007, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE (ustrax @ Sep 27 2007, 10:20 AM) 9 hours ago, any developments? Just in: The launch time weather forecast continues to predict scattered clouds at 3,000 and 10,000 feet, isolated rain showers in the area, northerly winds and a temperature around 77 degrees F. There is a 60 percent chance that weather will be acceptable for liftoff this morning. The cloud cover and showers are the concerns. Should the launch be delayed to Friday for any reason, tomorrow's weather outlook calls for an 80 percent chance of good conditions. -------------------- The scientist does not study nature because it is useful; he studies it because he delights in it, and he delights in it because it is beautiful.
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Sep 27 2007, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE (ustrax @ Sep 27 2007, 01:20 AM) Any recent news regarding the weather? I've receive an e-mail from Chris Russell, Dawn's PI, about this: "Everything is AOK here (at Kennedy Space Center) except, as usual, the weather is wet on and off and we will not know if we have the conditions that permit launch until tomorrow (today) morning at 0720 EDT (1240 UTC - 0240 HST)". This was already 9 hours ago, any developments? Cross fingers... The outlook could improve once the weather observation plane becomes airborne -------------------- 2011 JPL Tweetup photos: http://www.rich-parno.com/aa_jpltweetup.html
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Sep 27 2007, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE (punkboi @ Sep 27 2007, 10:58 AM) Cross fingers... The outlook could improve once the weather observation plane becomes airborne  She looks beautiful there... Dawn deserves a "GO!" -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Sep 27 2007, 10:08 AM
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Fingers also crossed here.
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Sep 27 2007, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE (MahFL @ Sep 27 2007, 03:08 AM) Fingers also crossed here. Weather forecast improved to 80%! According to http://www.spaceflightnow.com -------------------- 2011 JPL Tweetup photos: http://www.rich-parno.com/aa_jpltweetup.html
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Sep 27 2007, 10:37 AM
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http://spaceflightnow.com/delta/d327/status.html Spaceflight Now's frequently updated live launch blog for those without bandwidthhttp://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/ webcast for those with bandwidth.My DVD recorder's getting the launch coverage in 4-hour mode.A reminder:http://spaceflightnow.com/delta/d327/status.html Spaceflight Now's frequently updated live launch blog for those without bandwidthhttp://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/ webcast for those with bandwidth.My DVD recorder's getting the launch coverage in 4-hour mode.
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Sep 27 2007, 10:53 AM
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You can watch live coverage from NASA TV off this link
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html Everything looking good right now..... Looks gorgeous out there ..... light those candles please.... Craig |
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Sep 27 2007, 11:08 AM
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Launch area weather conditions "go" for launch. Now in a 10 minute hold.
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Sep 27 2007, 11:13 AM
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I can't watch videos at work, but I do have the still Kennedy Video feeds up
Go Dawn ! My Mother in law is actually called Vesta .
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Sep 27 2007, 11:17 AM
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Nice of NASA to schedule this launch at lunch time (for us folks in GMT (BST) land.
Really exciting stuff......................GO DAWN!!!!!!!! Brian -------------------- "There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary code, and those who don't."
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Sep 27 2007, 11:17 AM
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Arrgghh! The range is "no go"...
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Sep 27 2007, 11:18 AM
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Forum Contributor Group: Members Posts: 1374 Joined: 8-February 04 From: North East Florida, USA. Member No.: 11 |
Oh no a Range Hold !
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Sep 27 2007, 11:19 AM
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Bah! Ship within SRB splashdown area!
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Sep 27 2007, 11:21 AM
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Some idiot is in a boat in the restricted area down range, EEEEEEJIT!!!
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Sep 27 2007, 11:22 AM
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New launch time 7:34
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Sep 27 2007, 11:23 AM
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Coastguard has contacted ship.... expect out of area by 7:25am.
Out of hold at 7:30am... new launch time 7:34am. Craig |
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Sep 27 2007, 11:23 AM
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NEW LAUNCH TIME. Liftoff has been reset for 7:34 a.m. EDT
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Sep 27 2007, 11:23 AM
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Just fire a torpedo and get it over with...
 Damn. Moron fishermen. |
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Sep 27 2007, 11:24 AM
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Launch in 10 minutes from now.
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Sep 27 2007, 11:28 AM
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To set up the new launch time, would you believed that, they had also to wait that ISS cleared the "zone"
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Sep 27 2007, 11:30 AM
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And we're counting again
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Sep 27 2007, 11:40 AM
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Fairing jettissoned and 2nd stage engine on
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Sep 27 2007, 11:41 AM
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Up Up and away.................. looking good
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Sep 27 2007, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE (SkyeLab @ Sep 27 2007, 11:17 AM) Nice of NASA to schedule this launch at lunch time (for us folks in GMT (BST) land. Really exciting stuff......................GO DAWN!!!!!!!! Brian Well, here on Eastern time in the U.S., DAWN pretty much launched at dawn (OK, so sunrise is earlier, but it is really cloudy, so it is just getting light). Great timing! -------------------- |
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Sep 27 2007, 11:45 AM
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Prelim orbit achieved...............
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Sep 27 2007, 11:45 AM
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Time to breathe again!
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Sep 27 2007, 11:46 AM
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Dawn's up in orbit!
I guess I'll have to get back to work now. Question : I've seen a delay of about 45 seconds between spcaeflightnow's updates and Nasa TV, so I knew lift off has occured while I was still seeing the rocket on the launch pad. Do others have seen such differences ? -------------------- |
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Sep 27 2007, 11:52 AM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2257 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
Yes, launch was at 11:34:00 according to the launch commentator but I didn't see it happen until 11:34:50 (give or take a few seconds).
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Sep 27 2007, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Sep 27 2007, 11:52 AM) Yes, launch was at 11:34:00 according to the launch commentator but I didn't see it happen until 11:34:50 (give or take a few seconds). That was because I was having problems with my router, and NASA was so kind as to delay the broadcast until I had it fixed. I got it working again and was connected again at about 7:34:40 (EST), and couldn't believe I hadn't missed it! Glad to see that NASA is so considerate, and to the rest of you, sorry about the delay. 
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Sep 27 2007, 12:12 PM
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But why does it say "Dawn Coast Phase Coverage Will Resume Shortly August 27, 2007" and not "September 27" on NASA TV?
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Sep 27 2007, 12:23 PM
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Well done one and all working on that launch!
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Sep 27 2007, 05:42 PM
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Very beautiful launch, best ELV of the year. Here are some of the photos I took:
http://www.launchphotography.com/Dawn.html The media were relocated (somewhat by choice) to Jetty Park, but that turned out to be a beautiful turn of events. That's my favorite viewing site and it's rare that I can really go there. Nice meeting you Ken! Enjoying the blogs too. -------------------- |
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Sep 27 2007, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE (BPCooper @ Sep 27 2007, 07:42 PM) The media were relocated (somewhat by choice) to Jetty Park, but that turned out to be a beautiful turn of events. That's my favorite viewing site and it's rare that I can really go there. Very nice pictures indeed. Always differents from one launch to the other but as good as usual Ben. BTW, Jetty Park is the place whre Stve Squyres watched Oppy's launch (Ref : Roving Mars). I guess it's a very good sign
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Sep 27 2007, 05:54 PM
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Ben, great photos as usual. I particularly like the one 80 s after liftoff, the rocket seemingly going straight down and made visible by the wind blowing exhaust at the pad to the right. Headed into the "dawn" almost, towards the sun.
As usual, I'm only left wanting higher resolution versions - that one is wallpaper material! -------------------- |
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Sep 27 2007, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE (BPCooper @ Sep 27 2007, 12:42 PM) Truly beautiful pictures since the weather was so calm, no winds up to high altitude. The smoke trail is long and straight.
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Sep 28 2007, 12:38 AM
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Rats...sorry I missed the launch (was getting ready for work at the time, dammit!)
 But, so glad she's finally up & away!!! Thanks for the great recap, you guys.
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Sep 28 2007, 07:32 AM
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Two posts about politics removed.
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Sep 28 2007, 09:45 AM
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During the ascent.. maybe 1/2 to 3/4 of a min into launch, the rocket passed a bright, unresolved white light in the sky (above the trajectory). I presume it was Venus, accidentally caught in that tracking camera's view.
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