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Oct 9 2007, 02:31 PM
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Carolyn Porco comments included in this space.com article :
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0710...ni-iapetus.html |
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Oct 13 2007, 07:05 PM
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Why is everyone so sure about this global dusting from another moon? If the vast majority of the Cassini Regio dark material was already in the dirty ice of Iapetus and you only need a small amount of seeding material then the problem largely goes away. The albedo and spectrum of Cassini Regio should not be expected to match the seeding material, which may be pretty hard to track down at all if most of the seeding happened a long time ago. The source could have been a population of small, exhuasted (de-iced) periodic comet nuclei with aphelia close to the orbit of Saturn. These would have long since disappeared, so the search for a source may well be futile. I think it might be more fruitful to search for a 'colour' match amongst materials that might plausibly be trapped within the ice of Iapetus, or the radiation-altered products of such.
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Oct 13 2007, 08:29 PM
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The fact remains the leading and trailing hemisphere dark material has visually different look suggests whatever was deposited on the leading side wasn't only trace amounts. The leading hemisphere has a much more pronounced reddishness to it, different to the trailing side which, in stretched colors appears really greenish (those who didn't believe my calibrated stuff very much now have official proof of this). In fact, it could be postulated it's this greenish stuff that's native to Iapetus and the redder stuff was deposited (with potentially slightly impact-altered chemistry). The trailing side has a uniform subtle greenish hue to ice at equatorial latitudes as well. Interestingly enough, I recall the dark region on Dione (cliffy terrain) appears green in the same filter combination. "Green" is a relative term here, implying weak infrared and ultraviolet reflectance, not necessarily visually greenish stuff.
Invoking long-gone comets close to Saturn's orbit is IMHO stretching Occam's razor a bit too much. Why doesn't Phoebe have the same uniform coating then? Why would this only happen to occur at Saturn? If the comets were "spent", that'd mean their perihelia were much closer in so it would be seen at least in the Jovian system too. Furthermore, if the dust was coming from outside the Saturnian system perturbations by Saturn would most likely make the dusting affect a good portion of Iapetus, not just the leading hemisphere. -------------------- |
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TheChemist Mystery of Saturn's Two-Faced Moon Solved Oct 9 2007, 02:31 PM
alan Some press releases from the Cassini site, the lin... Oct 9 2007, 02:54 PM
Greg Hullender In that case, why only Iapetus? Why don't we ... Oct 9 2007, 03:24 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Oct 9 2007, 07:24... Oct 9 2007, 03:29 PM
ngunn QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Oct 9 2007, 04:24... Oct 9 2007, 03:57 PM
JRehling QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Oct 9 2007, 08:24... Oct 9 2007, 03:57 PM
AscendingNode QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Oct 9 2007, 08:24... Oct 9 2007, 04:09 PM
tasp And, Hyperion and Iapetus are the only two major s... Oct 10 2007, 05:06 AM
ngunn I've no problem with the feedback process, or ... Oct 10 2007, 08:36 AM
tasp The 'seeding' material for the darkening p... Oct 11 2007, 03:51 AM
David Iapetus doesn't need a huge differentiation in... Oct 11 2007, 07:42 AM
ngunn QUOTE (David @ Oct 11 2007, 08:42 AM) But... Oct 11 2007, 08:03 AM
Greg Hullender Thinking about this some more, this comment
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ugordan QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Oct 11 2007, 06:5... Oct 11 2007, 04:56 PM
stevesliva QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Oct 11 2007, 12:5... Oct 12 2007, 03:04 AM
alan The dust is theorized to have originated from a ou... Oct 11 2007, 05:03 PM
nprev Considering Titan as a potential source, I almost ... Oct 11 2007, 05:22 PM
Greg Hullender Alan, ugordon: Thanks. I suppose I should have sa... Oct 11 2007, 09:18 PM
alan Its the leading hemisphere because the dust is mov... Oct 12 2007, 02:51 AM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (alan @ Oct 11 2007, 06:51 PM) Here... Oct 15 2007, 02:25 AM
Greg Hullender steve: Good catch. Thanks!
Given, then, that... Oct 12 2007, 05:00 PM
Bill Harris QUOTE Could material spalled off from Phoebe accou... Oct 13 2007, 02:46 AM
elakdawalla If I recall correctly, Phoebe has long been consid... Oct 13 2007, 03:54 AM
ugordan That's correct. Of all the significant moons o... Oct 13 2007, 05:06 PM
tasp Salient inferrence there, ugordan.
Curious a spa... Oct 13 2007, 08:59 PM
nprev Fascinating ideas and discussion.
Crap; I knew th... Oct 15 2007, 02:52 AM
ngunn Since disconnected dark patches have formed on the... Oct 15 2007, 09:07 AM![]() ![]() |
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