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Oct 19 2007, 08:34 PM
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So I've been thinking a lot lately about the BFR (Big Fantastic Rocket) being developed for the NASA manned spaceflight program, the Ares V. And I was wondering what sort of robotic missions it would make possible that before weren't possible.
At first I was thinking you could take something like the proposed Europa Explorer mission... which launches on a Delta IV heavy and orbits Europa.... and you could take that spacecraft and put it on a bigger rocket and do things like add extra radiation shielding so it could last longer or add extra propellant so that it could orbit Callisto, Ganymede, and Europa or something like that. But that's just an improvement to an existing concept... what about things that no one has really thought about because they've been just thinking about things that could fit on existing rockets. Sure, we could do things like putting an armada of spacecraft on one vehicle... but that would cost a lot of money for all of the separate power systems (RTG or Solar) and avionics... and that concept could be done anyway with multiple launches of existing rockets. But with a BFR, we could do a Cassini style mission to Neptune (i.e. get to Neptune fast and carry enough propellant to stop from a high-speed encounter and do a tour). Or we could maybe carry enough shielding to orbit Io So, what do y'all think? How would you fly a BFR? |
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AscendingNode Unmmannedspaceflight Ares V missions Oct 19 2007, 08:34 PM
AscendingNode BFT (Big Fantastic Telescope) on BFR
Nasawatch ha... Oct 19 2007, 08:41 PM
The Messenger I think a Saturn or Neptunian Flagship BFR mission... Oct 19 2007, 08:45 PM
ugordan @The Messenger: And then if the test flight of the... Oct 19 2007, 08:53 PM
nprev Brings up an interesting point, Gordan: Wonder how... Oct 19 2007, 11:20 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 19 2007, 06:20 PM) Bri... Oct 20 2007, 06:55 AM

David QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 20 2007, 06:55 AM) ... Oct 22 2007, 03:14 AM

dvandorn QUOTE (David @ Oct 21 2007, 10:14 PM) Onl... Oct 22 2007, 04:13 AM

David QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 22 2007, 04:13 AM) ... Oct 22 2007, 05:43 AM
Jim from NSF.com QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 19 2007, 07:20 PM) Bri... Oct 20 2007, 12:59 PM
Juramike Maybe we could use one of the later test flights t... Oct 20 2007, 12:52 AM
djellison QUOTE (Juramike @ Oct 20 2007, 01:52 AM) ... Oct 20 2007, 12:54 PM
Paolo I don't like the idea of flying planetary miss... Oct 20 2007, 07:03 AM
Jim from NSF.com QUOTE (Paolo @ Oct 20 2007, 03:03 AM) I d... Oct 20 2007, 12:48 PM
algorimancer Of course, the Shuttle didn't have any test fl... Oct 21 2007, 02:37 PM
Jim from NSF.com QUOTE (algorimancer @ Oct 21 2007, 10:37 ... Oct 21 2007, 05:39 PM
nprev Great point...dammit! I don't know wha... Oct 21 2007, 03:29 PM
dvandorn Actually, the Shuttle is a beast unto itself when ... Oct 21 2007, 04:48 PM
nprev QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 21 2007, 09:48 AM) ... Oct 21 2007, 10:41 PM
Jim from NSF.com QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 21 2007, 06:41 PM) A w... Oct 22 2007, 11:31 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 21 2007, 05:41 PM) A w... Oct 22 2007, 03:19 PM
Jim from NSF.com There is no industry standard for man rating only ... Oct 21 2007, 05:42 PM
AscendingNode I was wondering if there are missions that aren... Oct 22 2007, 04:12 AM
Jim from NSF.com QUOTE (AscendingNode @ Oct 22 2007, 12:12... Oct 22 2007, 11:33 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (AscendingNode @ Oct 21 2007, 11:12... Oct 22 2007, 03:23 PM
dvandorn There were a variety of discussions beginning in 1... Oct 22 2007, 07:47 AM
ugordan QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 22 2007, 09:47 AM) ... Oct 22 2007, 08:21 AM
Jim from NSF.com QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 22 2007, 03:47 AM) ... Oct 22 2007, 11:28 AM
Greg Hullender Actually a straight shot to Neptune might well tak... Oct 22 2007, 05:03 PM
Jim from NSF.com That would be even more expensive. Redesigning sp... Oct 22 2007, 05:36 PM
Greg Hullender No question it would be more expensive in the shor... Oct 23 2007, 04:50 AM
Jim from NSF.com QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Oct 23 2007, 12:5... Oct 23 2007, 11:45 AM
nprev Hate to say it, but I personally think that UMSF m... Oct 23 2007, 02:20 PM
nprev That's an excellent point, Jim. Although it do... Oct 23 2007, 06:32 PM
djellison Two posts regarding a politician removed. Politic... Nov 22 2007, 02:54 PM![]() ![]() |
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