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Erosion on Titan
Juramike
post Oct 25 2007, 04:28 AM
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I made a list of 42 putative impact craters on Titan to try to estimate erosion rates of craterform features.

This list has the “typical” craterform features all characterized by an ISS or RADAR circular bright rim with either a RADAR or ISS dark central portion or a RADAR or ISS bright inner portion (dome or peak) and a darker inner circle. Several of these have been previously reported in the literature. Due to the extensive rim erosion, some of these are broken or incomplete circles.

These (broken)circular features have been classified into five groups depending on the level of erosion evident (from most pristine in appearance to the most used and abused):

- Fresh craters - with little to no erosion evident on the crater rim or debris apron.

- Recent craters – with some evidence of fluvial erosion on the rim, some crenellation being present.

- Eroded craters – with a single breach of the rim or with severe erosion of the rim wall.

- Multiple breached craters – with several complete breaks in the rim structure.

- Degraded craters – with collapse or removal of large sections of the rim structure with extensive invasion of new materials (e.g. dune sands).

Here is a map showing the approximate locations of these features on Titan:

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post May 23 2008, 08:42 PM
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What we don't know is how porous Titan's surface material is. Or how much this varies over the surface.

Really hard impermeable stuff might cause a large amount of runoff during a torrential downpour. (Like the dendritic pattern in Figure 1 above). Lots of erosion and carving right from where the raindrops hit.

Really soft porous stuff might allow methane rains to floof right into the surface and percolate underground before emerging as sapping springs (like the stubby pattern in Figure 2). This would have limited erosion at the surface until right where the liquid collected and sapped out into a stream.

I think Huygens Island is evidence of both types of terrain. To the NW, the dendritic pattern shows a relatively impermeable terrain, while to the SW, the stubby pattern shows a very permeable terrain.

Without having any absolute topography data as yet (T41 + T8???), (save for the DEM's from the limited Huygen's view), I'd still be pretty confident that the Huygens Island is a local topographic rise. I'd be harder pressed to come up with an explanation for how the local methanofer is pumping out liquid on a topographic high. The most simple explanation for Huygens Island is that the origin for the fluid originating on the was from rainfall coming from above.

Below is an image that has been bugging me for quite a while. Why does Ksa have a channel skirting the base of the debris apron on the downwind side? Could the impact basin have compacted the sediments and caused the base of Ksa to be cut off from underground communication? Could this then cause it to fill like a cup during "fluid flow" events (above ground or below) and then slowly percolate out the base of the debris apron. Or does the debris apron causes a topographic block and the eroded ice sands are less prone to percolation and you get a short surface flow over this section. (Note how the dark channel goes into the sand sea area and then quickly dissipates away. Methinks the sand sea basins are very very porous)

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Is the related to why the anabranched streams of Menrva originate well away from the crater rim? Is there percolation as well through the debris apron of Menrva? Did Menrva fill up like a crater lake during monsoon events (big delta deposits in there as well as the canyon breach on the SW side) and then slowly percolate out at the base of the debris apron?

Could the permeable vs. non-permeable terrains types explain the lake morphology in the N?

Could it also explain the canyon-land terrain (soft and percolable terrain) in the T39 RADAR swath compared to the big delta deposit in T7 (hard and impermeable)?

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- Juramike   Erosion on Titan   Oct 25 2007, 04:28 AM
- - Juramike   Here is a gallery of Fresh Craterform features fro...   Oct 25 2007, 04:32 AM
- - Juramike   Here is a gallery of images of Recent Craterform f...   Oct 25 2007, 04:35 AM
- - Juramike   Here is a gallery of images of Eroded Craterform f...   Oct 25 2007, 04:38 AM
- - Juramike   Here is a gallery of images of Multiple-Breached c...   Oct 25 2007, 04:42 AM
- - Juramike   Here is a gallery of images of Degraded craterform...   Oct 25 2007, 04:47 AM
- - Juramike   Here is an EXCEL file showing the entry number, l...   Oct 25 2007, 04:51 AM
|- - MahFL   Wow...I did not realise there were so many craters...   Oct 25 2007, 01:50 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (MahFL @ Oct 25 2007, 02:50 PM) Wow...   Oct 25 2007, 02:13 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (MahFL @ Oct 25 2007, 03:50 PM) Wow...   Oct 25 2007, 07:55 PM
- - Juramike   With 42 craters sprinkled among different erosion...   Oct 25 2007, 11:32 PM
- - Juramike   For grins and giggles, I made a combo/hybrid of th...   Oct 26 2007, 01:40 AM
- - Juramike   Binning the total list in log 2 sizes and making a...   Oct 26 2007, 03:12 AM
- - Juramike   To try to figure the erosion rate I’ll focus on on...   Oct 26 2007, 04:29 AM
- - tty   I don't quite agree with your interpretation. ...   Oct 26 2007, 06:25 AM
|- - Juramike   It is very likely that some craters have been erod...   Oct 26 2007, 07:45 PM
- - volcanopele   The other issue is that a number of the craterifor...   Oct 26 2007, 07:18 AM
|- - Juramike   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Oct 26 2007, 03:18 A...   Oct 26 2007, 04:18 PM
- - nprev   Mike, you also might expect some equatorial enhanc...   Oct 26 2007, 09:32 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 26 2007, 05:32 PM) Mik...   Oct 27 2007, 01:05 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (rlorenz @ Oct 27 2007, 06:05 AM) V...   Oct 29 2007, 08:45 PM
- - Juramike   By examining the alluvial fans surrounding a crate...   Oct 29 2007, 04:42 AM
- - Bill Harris   Good job on your study, Mike. It actually matters...   Oct 29 2007, 12:45 PM
- - Juramike   How often does it rain on Titan in the Equatorial ...   Oct 29 2007, 09:16 PM
- - TheChemist   Checklist of items for future Titanauts. ....... u...   Oct 29 2007, 10:30 PM
- - Juramike   Is there another crater inside Menrva? Staring at...   Oct 30 2007, 03:32 AM
- - Juramike   Here's an Earth analog of a crater in the Mult...   Dec 21 2007, 04:45 AM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (Juramike @ Dec 20 2007, 11:45 PM) ...   Dec 22 2007, 02:10 PM
- - nprev   That wasn't it, Ralph; everyone knows that Soy...   Dec 22 2007, 02:56 PM
- - Juramike   QUOTE (rlorenz @ Dec 22 2007, 09:10 AM) S...   Dec 23 2007, 03:56 AM
- - Juramike   Recent article in space.com suggesting a megaflood...   May 22 2008, 09:13 PM
- - titanicrivers   I can't help but wonder about the contribution...   May 23 2008, 07:58 PM
|- - Webscientist   Very interesting analysis. I note that the assumed...   May 23 2008, 09:02 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (Webscientist @ May 23 2008, 05:02 ...   May 24 2008, 01:00 AM
|- - Juramike   QUOTE (Webscientist @ May 23 2008, 05:02 ...   May 24 2008, 01:13 AM
- - Juramike   What we don't know is how porous Titan's s...   May 23 2008, 08:42 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (Juramike @ May 23 2008, 04:42 PM) ...   May 24 2008, 01:04 AM
|- - Juramike   QUOTE (rlorenz @ May 23 2008, 09:04 PM) T...   May 24 2008, 04:15 AM
- - ngunn   Mike, I have long suspected that permeable vs. imp...   May 24 2008, 10:10 AM
- - titanicrivers   The Huygen's landing site has sapping (S), tec...   May 31 2008, 12:54 AM
- - titanicrivers   Its been a bit quiet lately on this Titan blog so ...   Jun 29 2008, 01:43 PM
|- - Big_Gazza   QUOTE (titanicrivers @ Jun 29 2008, 11:43...   Jul 1 2008, 08:35 AM
- - ngunn   It's from here: http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/mul...   Jul 1 2008, 10:51 AM
- - remcook   For those of you with access, this is now in press...   Jul 2 2008, 09:25 AM
|- - Juramike   QUOTE (remcook @ Jul 2 2008, 04:25 AM) Fo...   Jul 4 2008, 01:35 AM
- - Juramike   Another recently released paper: Lorenz et al. P...   Jul 3 2008, 03:52 AM
- - ngunn   Thanks Mike. For some reason I can't get that ...   Jul 3 2008, 11:44 AM
|- - Juramike   Thanks, Nigel! I corrected the link. There ap...   Jul 3 2008, 01:24 PM
- - ngunn   I agree it's possible that the eastward flow b...   Jul 3 2008, 01:52 PM
|- - Juramike   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jul 3 2008, 09:52 AM) I...   Jul 3 2008, 04:11 PM
- - tasp   Geology and even more so, Titanology are not my sp...   Jul 3 2008, 03:50 PM
- - ngunn   You could be right - there's still so much we ...   Jul 3 2008, 07:49 PM
|- - Juramike   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jul 3 2008, 02:49 PM) Mayb...   Jul 4 2008, 12:54 AM
- - titanicrivers   "Fluvial channels on Titan: Initial Cassini R...   Jul 6 2008, 10:10 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (titanicrivers @ Jul 6 2008, 06:10 ...   Jul 29 2008, 10:00 AM
|- - Juramike   Taking figure 7 in Lorenz et al, 2008 as a rough g...   Jul 31 2008, 02:56 AM
|- - Jason W Barnes   On this erosional topic, there's a new VIMS pa...   Aug 1 2008, 12:03 AM
- - titanicrivers   As a follow up to above post I have to admit a bet...   Jul 23 2008, 07:11 AM
- - Juramike   My speculation is that pretty much most of the ISS...   Jul 23 2008, 02:19 PM
- - titanicrivers   I might add a ‘perched’ methanofer (fig 1 below) a...   Jul 26 2008, 02:24 PM
- - TheChemist   Dear Author, We are sorry to inform you that your ...   Jul 26 2008, 02:55 PM
- - titanicrivers   QUOTE (TheChemist @ Jul 26 2008, 09:55 AM...   Jul 26 2008, 03:09 PM
- - titanicrivers   "Sorry - been a bit off-line for the last 2 m...   Jul 29 2008, 05:31 PM


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