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Sliding into 'Home Plate North', Heading for Spirit's 2008 Winter Retreat |
Nov 2 2007, 04:55 AM
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So, perhaps a new topic is warranted now that the MER team has decided on the location for Spirit's 2008 winter retreat - 'Home Plate North'. (See: Planetary Society MER Update)
So, first question to our UMSF team - 'Could someone pinpoint the winter location on a Hi-Rise photo of Home Plate?' Tesheiner's route map (above). I note with interest, that the last time I started a topic on Spirit (Spirit's New Adventures - The Mission Beyond 1,000 Sols) it was on November 7th, 2006. As I write this, it's November 2nd 2007 and we are seeing the Rovers move into their THIRD Martian year (coming up to four Earth years). An incredible achievement, an incredible journey, and it's not over yet! Astro0 |
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Nov 5 2007, 05:46 PM
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I would add the following observation. From what we've heard, it sounds like von Braun/Goddard are the next science targets the team is most interested in. Power levels on Spirit are currently sufficient for driving and science, and (depending on how favourable the surface is en route) they could probably make a good shot at reaching vB/G before winter. So I would argue that if the planners thought the odds were poor that we would survive another winter at Home Plate North, then for the sake of maximizing science return an attempt would be made to reach vB/G immediately. This would be done with the understanding that she would probably not survive this coming winter, so it would be her final target. Drive to vB/G as quickly as possible and study it as much as possible before her final Big Sleep.
But this hasn't happened, and so the fact that she's been sent to HP North with its more favourable and easily accessible slopes suggests to me that they think the odds are reasonable that she will survive another winter and continue to vB/G next year. That's good news. As frustrating as it is to have to wait until another Martian spring, I'd certainly prefer long term life to a brief final hurrah. |
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Nov 5 2007, 06:30 PM
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As frustrating as it is to have to wait until another Martian spring, I'd certainly prefer long term life to a brief final hurrah. I have to agree to this but, come on, once we'll stop in the right spot that'll be another 7 months waiting for spring to bloom with no move at all. OK, that wayyyyy shorter than waiting for NH to get to Jupiter. Anyway I'm having hard time to figure out how our F1 fan can be facinated by such a slow vehicule. -------------------- |
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Nov 5 2007, 07:00 PM
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I'm having hard time to figure out how our F1 fan can be facinated by such a slow vehicule. My two favorite vehicles of all time - Thrust SSC, and MER - just about the fastest and slowest vehicles made my man. My two favorite noises - a BRM H16, and a Delta II Technology, engineering - I love it - in any form. Doug |
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Astro0 Sliding into 'Home Plate North' Nov 2 2007, 04:55 AM
dvandorn I really think Spirit ought to traverse along the ... Nov 2 2007, 05:07 AM
fredk QUOTE (dvandorn @ Nov 2 2007, 05:07 AM) I... Nov 4 2007, 07:44 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (fredk @ Nov 4 2007, 02:44 PM) Your... Nov 5 2007, 07:11 AM
alan QUOTE (Astro0 @ Nov 1 2007, 11:55 PM) So,... Nov 2 2007, 07:13 PM
Stu So we'll be resting up near my fave ever rock,... Nov 2 2007, 08:15 PM
peter59 I'm completly dissapointed. Spirit's days ... Nov 2 2007, 10:49 PM
djellison Drive to Goddard and Spirit WILL die.
Drive somew... Nov 2 2007, 10:52 PM
brellis QUOTE Drive somewhere with better slopes, and it p... Nov 3 2007, 02:11 AM
nprev QUOTE (brellis @ Nov 2 2007, 07:11 PM) It... Nov 3 2007, 05:53 AM
CosmicRocker Well, the decision to delay the visit to von Braun... Nov 3 2007, 04:23 AM
climber QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Nov 3 2007, 05:23 A... Nov 4 2007, 04:14 PM
Astro0 QUOTE (nprev @ Nov 3 2007, 04:53 PM) Been... Nov 4 2007, 06:15 AM
fredk I was mostly surprised by the abruptness of the de... Nov 4 2007, 05:50 PM
Aussie QUOTE (fredk @ Nov 4 2007, 05:50 PM) I wa... Nov 4 2007, 11:12 PM
tanjent It will be nice to know the wintering target locat... Nov 5 2007, 04:11 PM
Tesheiner QUOTE (tanjent @ Nov 5 2007, 05:11 PM) ..... Nov 7 2007, 01:49 PM
djellison When poetry provides Whr's - let me know.
Unt... Nov 5 2007, 04:43 PM
BrianL Never been an "armchair quarterback", Do... Nov 5 2007, 05:44 PM
djellison QUOTE (BrianL @ Nov 5 2007, 05:44 PM) Nev... Nov 5 2007, 05:53 PM
TheChemist QUOTE (climber @ Nov 5 2007, 08:30 PM) An... Nov 5 2007, 06:45 PM
Holder of the Two Leashes I've read that they're going to put Spirit... Nov 5 2007, 06:45 PM
Astro0 Is it just me, or has it gone a bit quiet on both ... Nov 13 2007, 09:33 PM
climber QUOTE (Astro0 @ Nov 13 2007, 10:33 PM) He... Nov 13 2007, 10:03 PM
mhoward QUOTE (Astro0 @ Nov 13 2007, 03:33 PM) He... Nov 13 2007, 10:36 PM
fredk Astro0, thanks for the image. I'd say that th... Nov 13 2007, 10:43 PM
Shaka QUOTE (fredk @ Nov 13 2007, 12:43 PM) I e... Nov 13 2007, 11:09 PM
Tesheiner QUOTE (fredk @ Nov 13 2007, 11:43 PM) ... Nov 14 2007, 08:31 AM
Shaka Astro0,
Unless I'm badly disoriented, it appea... Nov 13 2007, 10:56 PM
fredk QUOTE (Shaka @ Nov 13 2007, 10:56 PM) We ... Nov 14 2007, 01:03 AM
djellison Currently 320 Whrs - and falling rather fast. Giv... Nov 13 2007, 11:12 PM
Shaka OK, that is a reasonable precaution. A pity though... Nov 13 2007, 11:24 PM
fredk QUOTE (Shaka @ Nov 13 2007, 11:24 PM) Ass... Nov 14 2007, 01:15 AM
Astro0 Yippee! It worked.
We are talking again
Just... Nov 14 2007, 01:23 AM
mhoward QUOTE (Astro0 @ Nov 13 2007, 07:23 PM) I... Nov 14 2007, 01:51 AM
djellison QUOTE (Astro0 @ Nov 14 2007, 01:23 AM) Do... Nov 14 2007, 07:54 AM
Shaka I would prefer to find a place considerably closer... Nov 14 2007, 01:42 AM
Sunspot If they have just 320Whr now, how low do they expe... Nov 14 2007, 08:07 AM
alan QUOTE (Sunspot @ Nov 14 2007, 02:07 AM) I... Nov 14 2007, 08:34 PM
fredk With tosol's drive we've almost completed ... Nov 14 2007, 06:17 PM
djellison We have a filthy rover, and a rapidly coming winte... Nov 14 2007, 08:54 PM
fredk QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 14 2007, 08:54 PM)... Nov 14 2007, 10:10 PM

Aussie QUOTE (fredk @ Nov 14 2007, 10:10 PM) Rem... Nov 15 2007, 05:49 AM

centsworth_II QUOTE (Aussie @ Nov 15 2007, 12:49 AM) ... Nov 15 2007, 09:25 PM
climber QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 14 2007, 09:54 PM)... Nov 14 2007, 10:32 PM
djellison QUOTE (climber @ Nov 14 2007, 10:32 PM) C... Nov 14 2007, 11:31 PM
Astro0 QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 14 2007, 06:54 PM)... Nov 14 2007, 09:39 PM
Aussie There is a limit to power conservation. The RHU p... Nov 14 2007, 11:09 PM
Del Palmer QUOTE (Aussie @ Nov 14 2007, 11:09 PM) Si... Nov 14 2007, 11:51 PM
helvick QUOTE (Del Palmer @ Nov 14 2007, 11:51 PM... Nov 15 2007, 12:45 AM
Aussie QUOTE (helvick @ Nov 15 2007, 12:45 AM) M... Nov 16 2007, 02:04 AM
djellison During the dust storm - they didn't do that. T... Nov 15 2007, 12:02 AM
Del Palmer Yes, sorry I wasn't clearer. W = Watt-hours p... Nov 15 2007, 01:08 AM
fredk Tracks from 616 sols ago (that's pushing two y... Nov 16 2007, 05:26 AM
climber May be a wild thought, but anyway.
Instead of hopi... Nov 16 2007, 05:48 PM
djellison I doubt it makes much of a difference be honest. ... Nov 16 2007, 06:19 PM
Stu Time for a few new views, I think...
Nov 17 2007, 10:27 AM
djellison Given that we are treating Home Plate as a roundab... Nov 17 2007, 11:44 AM
Stu Nice mini-trench you cut out for us there, Spirit.... Nov 17 2007, 01:09 PM
fredk I don't know, Doug, where I come from we go co... Nov 17 2007, 06:44 PM
climber QUOTE (fredk @ Nov 17 2007, 07:44 PM) Cli... Nov 17 2007, 07:12 PM
fredk Latest official maps show a possible winter haven ... Nov 18 2007, 04:27 AM
alan My interpretation of WH3 viewed from sol 742, nice... Nov 18 2007, 07:02 AM
Stu
Loving the layers here... Nov 18 2007, 11:08 AM
Floyd Was the plan to be in the winter haven spot by ear... Nov 18 2007, 02:23 PM
dvandorn There is one factor that I don't think even th... Nov 18 2007, 06:13 PM
centsworth_II Spirit's wintering may turn out to be more of ... Nov 18 2007, 06:27 PM
Tesheiner Here's the latest navcam mosaic taken on sol 1... Nov 21 2007, 09:13 AM
djellison That's a nice bit of rover donut that'll b... Nov 21 2007, 10:23 AM
fredk I certainly don't want to raise alarm bells un... Nov 21 2007, 04:29 PM
jamescanvin I don't see any indications of anything unusua... Nov 21 2007, 04:57 PM
Tesheiner This is my guess (no info to support it, for the t... Nov 22 2007, 09:13 AM
fredk I have two more guesses to add to yours, Tesheiner... Nov 22 2007, 03:58 PM
CosmicRocker It looks as if Spirit may have had some difficulty... Nov 23 2007, 02:46 AM
fredk Another small bump on sol 1384, followed by yet an... Nov 25 2007, 07:08 PM
mhoward She seems to be having trouble getting out the way... Nov 25 2007, 09:01 PM
djellison I hate to be all 'told you so' - but peopl... Nov 25 2007, 09:38 PM
fredk Doug, that's a point I was going to make mysel... Nov 25 2007, 11:20 PM
bgarlick color MRO image of spirit on home plate.
http://h... Nov 26 2007, 07:04 PM
alan Mars rover Spirit gets stuck as winter approaches
... Nov 27 2007, 01:52 AM
BrianL QUOTE (alan @ Nov 26 2007, 07:52 PM) Mars... Nov 27 2007, 04:49 AM
nprev Hoo boy...what timing. How many more sols of sla... Nov 27 2007, 02:15 AM
fredk A few more specifics in the latest update. Nov 27 2007, 04:47 AM
mhoward It must be because the writers are on strike. They... Nov 27 2007, 02:00 PM
Astro0 WARNING! THIS IS HUMOUR
Not wanting to wai... Nov 28 2007, 02:47 AM
nprev Atta girl, Spirit!!! Show that damn wh... Nov 28 2007, 03:23 AM
djellison
THERE'S your problem!
Nov 28 2007, 08:27 AM
Stu Spirit's making a helluva mess in that sandbox... Nov 28 2007, 09:56 AM
Tesheiner Another drive attempt was made on sol 1387. Still ... Nov 28 2007, 01:39 PM
fredk The New Scientist article has been updated:
QUOTE ... Nov 28 2007, 05:09 PM
dot.dk It actually would be quite handy to dump that whee... Nov 28 2007, 11:16 PM
nprev QUOTE (dot.dk @ Nov 28 2007, 03:16 PM) An... Nov 29 2007, 03:14 AM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (nprev @ Nov 28 2007, 07:14 PM) IIR... Nov 29 2007, 05:57 AM
Tesheiner Spirit seems to be free!
Check the latest fha... Nov 29 2007, 12:59 PM
nprev ...you're killin' me, EGD!
Great thou... Nov 29 2007, 01:07 PM
djellison A bit close to the edge - but the edge is more lik... Nov 29 2007, 01:40 PM
general Advice to engineers who design next generation rov... Nov 29 2007, 03:39 PM![]() ![]() |
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