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Dec 5 2007, 06:47 AM
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40 days and counting. The long wait is almost over!
I wonder whether we will get enough data to test new simulation theories like this one. http://space.newscientist.com/article/mg19...solar-wind.html What do you expect from this first flyby? |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:48 PM
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I've noticed on the animations that some of the NAC images on approach are taken entirely within the night side. What's up with that? Is is possible for them to actually see anything in these? Maybe a bit of light from Venus on that part, but not much else.
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Jan 10 2008, 11:54 PM
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I've noticed on the animations that some of the NAC images on approach are taken entirely within the night side. What's up with that? Is is possible for them to actually see anything in these? Maybe a bit of light from Venus, but not much else. It may be to give them some margin of error in camera pointing. At such high resolution, a relatively small error (in terms of position) could wreck havoc on a mosaic. While we were waiting, I figured I would post a link to my new Mariner-10 mosaic I posted in the Mariner-10 thread. I always wondered why Robinson's global mosaic for the receding side used much more distant frames than the approaching side, which is much larger. He did make a high resolution mosaic of this area, but with a lot of gaps and gores. After trying to work with the data myself, I understand why. http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4070/ou...hires1f1yt9.jpg -------------------- |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:03 AM
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It may be to give them some margin of error in camera pointing. At such high resolution, a relatively small error (in terms of position) could wreck havoc on a mosaic. ... http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4070/ou...hires1f1yt9.jpg OR, maybe they might catch a small moon out of shadow? I recall from a DPS poster that there are some quasi-stable phase space, searched telescopically without success but with a high background level of course. You'd think "why not wait for orbit?", except that the illumination is different and most importantly because there are no guarantees orbit will be achieved. Get as much from the flybys as possible, no predicting the future. Re satellites, I'm especially intrigued about an elongated oval feature evident in the radar images below Caloris, so well placed for this flyby (unfortunately in the Doppler ambiguous region so not included in Phil's MESSENGER radar base map). It is inclined only a bit from the equator. Perhaps a spun-down Phobos-like oblique impact? A long shot, but we'll see soon enough, hopefully. |
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MarsIsImportant Mercury Flyby 1 Dec 5 2007, 06:47 AM
As old as Voyager Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing MESS... Dec 5 2007, 10:04 AM
monitorlizard [.....]
I think the most exciting thing we have s... Dec 5 2007, 10:06 AM
edstrick Mariner 10 had terribly limited color imaging.. Or... Dec 6 2007, 09:27 AM
tedstryk QUOTE (edstrick @ Dec 6 2007, 09:27 AM) H... Dec 6 2007, 12:33 PM
MarsIsImportant From wikipedia...
QUOTE The mission is designed t... Dec 10 2007, 08:01 PM
JRehling [...] Dec 10 2007, 10:51 PM
nprev The most exciting features I could anticipate migh... Dec 11 2007, 01:41 AM
Holder of the Two Leashes I expect the magnetometer data to provide some hel... Dec 11 2007, 03:28 AM
IM4 Simple Celestia perspective : Mercury as seen aft... Dec 11 2007, 07:08 PM
MarsIsImportant This is an animation of the January 14th, 2008 Mes... Dec 14 2007, 04:19 AM
JRehling [...] Dec 14 2007, 04:47 AM
MarsIsImportant Well, it has been about 33 years since the last me... Dec 15 2007, 08:33 PM
Rob Pinnegar Yeah, that magnetic field is sure to be one of the... Dec 15 2007, 11:13 PM
JRehling [...] Dec 16 2007, 04:42 AM
Rob Pinnegar Actually, my first guess is that Mercury's slo... Dec 16 2007, 05:53 PM
peter59 MESSENGER’s nineteenth trajectory-correction maneu... Dec 20 2007, 06:53 PM
peter59 New animation of MESSENGER's flyby of Mercury ... Dec 21 2007, 06:06 PM
tedstryk Sweet! Dec 21 2007, 06:09 PM
ugordan Wow, that's going to be a LOT of frames!
... Dec 21 2007, 06:43 PM
volcanopele Very nice! Looks like there will some very ni... Dec 21 2007, 06:42 PM
volcanopele LOL, I've been working on image processing for... Dec 21 2007, 07:14 PM
tedstryk I am looking forward to seeing the rest of Caloris... Dec 21 2007, 08:12 PM
4th rock from the sun QUOTE (tedstryk @ Dec 21 2007, 08:12 PM) ... Dec 22 2007, 03:33 PM
MarsIsImportant Wow! There will be a lot more visual camera m... Dec 22 2007, 06:33 AM
edstrick "...all of which add up to the magnetic field... Dec 22 2007, 11:54 AM
CAP-Team I'm curious who'll post the first new map ... Dec 22 2007, 03:05 PM
nprev ...we should start a pool! UMSF's imagesmi... Dec 22 2007, 03:23 PM
ugordan QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 22 2007, 04:23 PM) I... Dec 22 2007, 03:35 PM
algorimancer QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 22 2007, 09:35 AM) .... Dec 22 2007, 11:55 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (algorimancer @ Dec 22 2007, 03:55 ... Dec 23 2007, 10:56 PM
nprev Didn't forget; actually, never knew. Bummer. Dec 22 2007, 03:37 PM
Doc QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 22 2007, 06:37 PM) Did... Dec 24 2007, 10:14 AM
peter59 QUOTE (Doc @ Dec 24 2007, 11:14 AM) Howev... Dec 29 2007, 03:37 PM
Phil Stooke No, but any press release mosaics etc. could be re... Dec 22 2007, 10:12 PM
JRehling [...] Dec 22 2007, 10:44 PM
elakdawalla In terms of when images get released, a lot depend... Dec 22 2007, 10:57 PM
djellison Outreach is certainly part of the mission selectio... Dec 23 2007, 12:10 AM
tfisher QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 22 2007, 08:10 PM)... Dec 23 2007, 01:38 PM
Rob Pinnegar QUOTE (tfisher @ Dec 23 2007, 06:38 AM) T... Dec 23 2007, 07:49 PM
nprev Yeah...it's easy to forget that it takes a lot... Dec 23 2007, 02:18 AM
MarsIsImportant If we are not pushy and the Messenger team knows a... Dec 23 2007, 06:20 AM
scalbers Wonder if any images will be shown at this public ... Dec 24 2007, 11:00 PM
gcecil QUOTE (scalbers @ Dec 24 2007, 06:00 PM) ... Dec 25 2007, 10:42 PM
simonbp QUOTE (gcecil @ Dec 25 2007, 04:42 PM) Up... Jan 2 2008, 09:49 PM
CAP-Team Does anyone know what the field of view of the Nar... Dec 29 2007, 09:50 AM
elakdawalla QUOTE (CAP-Team @ Dec 29 2007, 01:50... Dec 29 2007, 05:03 PM
CAP-Team Based on Emily's data, this is how Messenger s... Dec 29 2007, 11:21 PM
gcecil Can someone here please point me to updating orbit... Jan 2 2008, 01:02 PM
elakdawalla Does JPL's HORIZONS system give you what you... Jan 2 2008, 06:07 PM
gcecil QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jan 2 2008, 01:07 PM... Jan 2 2008, 11:24 PM
ustrax We're back...
http://spaceurope.blogspot.c... Jan 4 2008, 10:40 PM
Phil Stooke Some new visualizations are up on the MESSENGER pa... Jan 5 2008, 09:10 PM
ustrax QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jan 5 2008, 09:10 PM... Jan 5 2008, 10:36 PM
NMRguy MESSENGER Mission News
January 7, 2008
MESSENGER O... Jan 7 2008, 04:46 PM
PhilCo126 Any chance they'll show something on NASA.TV ? Jan 8 2008, 04:32 PM
NMRguy Apparently they will. Here's a link to the sc... Jan 8 2008, 04:55 PM
NMRguy MESSENGER Mission News
January 8, 2008
Six Days fr... Jan 8 2008, 08:15 PM
JRehling [...] Jan 8 2008, 08:50 PM
Stu While we wait for new images to start coming in, I... Jan 8 2008, 11:08 PM
Stu Can someone help me get oriented here? I've al... Jan 8 2008, 11:41 PM
lyford n00b question -
How does a spacecraft like Messe... Jan 8 2008, 11:44 PM
Ian R Stu,
Check out the screenshot I've culled fro... Jan 9 2008, 12:04 AM
JRehling [...] Jan 9 2008, 12:10 AM
Stu Thanks guys, exactly what I wanted. Knew I could c... Jan 9 2008, 12:12 AM
edstrick This will give a rather poor, high-sun-angle view ... Jan 9 2008, 10:09 AM
ustrax Great explanation by Noam Izenberg about what will... Jan 9 2008, 05:52 PM
elakdawalla MESSENGER Team Receives First Optical Navigation I... Jan 9 2008, 08:03 PM
nprev I was gonna say "odd", but that's co... Jan 9 2008, 09:48 PM
CAP-Team The NAC images should look something like this:
Jan 9 2008, 10:03 PM
ustrax We have an happy team over there...Ralph McNutt wo... Jan 10 2008, 03:41 PM
Stu I know that at least one of the MESSENGER team has... Jan 10 2008, 04:27 PM
ustrax MERCURY AHEAD!!! Jan 10 2008, 06:02 PM
elakdawalla Press conference graphics Jan 10 2008, 06:04 PM
PDP8E Here is the output of my hand written trajectory s... Jan 10 2008, 06:23 PM
belleraphon1 Mercury Ahead indeed.
Really looking forward to ... Jan 10 2008, 10:56 PM
Holder of the Two Leashes Those press conference graphics that Emily linked ... Jan 10 2008, 11:10 PM
nprev Yeah (sigh)...I'm hoping that the spacebug gen... Jan 10 2008, 11:15 PM
elakdawalla I think also it was easier for them to sequence, a... Jan 11 2008, 12:05 AM
JRehling [...] Jan 11 2008, 12:16 AM
elakdawalla QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 10 2008, 04:16 PM) ... Jan 11 2008, 04:31 AM
nprev That would be fascinating, but got my doubts. I... Jan 11 2008, 01:59 AM
volcanopele Excellent. All future communications from me will... Jan 11 2008, 05:30 AM
stevesliva Me
.oot Jan 11 2008, 05:40 AM
peter59 New image snapped with the Narrow Angle Camera, on... Jan 11 2008, 05:11 PM
tedstryk Here is a new version of the first image. The pro... Jan 11 2008, 05:19 PM
Bjorn Jonsson Getting closer. Hints of relief/craters visible, e... Jan 11 2008, 05:20 PM
ugordan Interesting, it's just starting to show irregu... Jan 11 2008, 05:23 PM
volcanopele LOL, looks like we all had the same idea. So far ... Jan 11 2008, 05:50 PM
tedstryk I processed both of them now.
Jan 11 2008, 06:08 PM
climber Not my idea actualy, but I hope Nasa will name a y... Jan 11 2008, 07:59 PM
tedstryk Looks like our Poet Laureate has given voice to ou... Jan 11 2008, 09:13 PM
ustrax HOO-RAH!!! Jan 11 2008, 09:24 PM
n1ckdrake Beautiful poem. Congrats Stu! Jan 11 2008, 09:44 PM
Stu Thanks! I'm almost embarrassingly chuff... Jan 11 2008, 09:55 PM
belleraphon1 Stu.... very nice...
You give value to all of us... Jan 12 2008, 12:10 AM
nprev Let me add my congratulations, Stu; that's jus... Jan 12 2008, 01:04 AM![]() ![]() |
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