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The Lakes and Seas of Titan: Observations From Cassini RADAR, CASSINI CHARM presentation - 11/27/2007 |
Dec 29 2007, 01:36 AM
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The Lakes and Seas of Titan: Observations From Cassini RADAR http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/prod...27_Mitchell.pdf http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/prod...RM_Mitchell.wav http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/prod...nscript_raw.doc Perhaps due to the Holidays, this was not noted before... Enjoy Craig p.s. what fill 12/20/07 SAR reveal? http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/events/tit...71220/index.cfm "Cassini successfully completed its most recent Titan flyby on Dec. 20, 2007, and data are currently being analyzed. During this flyby, the radar instrument studied Titan's "deep south." This will allow scientists to contrast this region against what they found in the lake regions of the north polar area. The spacecraft went as far south as 70 degrees. The radar imaged areas of the Tsegihi region it had not yet seen, and got some overlap in coverage. New ground was covered south of the dune fields of Belet. " |
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Dec 29 2007, 03:42 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 813 Joined: 29-December 05 From: NE Oh, USA Member No.: 627 |
Your welcome Nprev..
Juramike.... from p 35 of the transcipt "If this is therefore karst, and if the depths of these lakes which we have in places mentioned a few hundred meters is indicative of a fitness of a non-waterized soluble layer, then we actually have an extensive and thick polar cap. Now this isn’t like the polar cap on the Earth in that it’s not something that will face changing into liquid or melt. The liquids and the (unintelligible) in polar regions are actually quite different chemistries." Your precipitated layer is the solid hydrocarbon polar cap. Now... why does this only occur at the pole? Atmospheric circulation dumping more solid hydro precipitates at the pole as snow? Temperatures and humidity just right to allow methan/ethane/nitrogen precipitation in liquid phase? Really neat picture..... really want that south pole SAR!!! Craig |
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Dec 29 2007, 11:18 AM
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What a present for christmas, this paper from Mitchell, very well illustrated!
The findings upon the behavior of hydrocarbon molecules on Titan confirm that they are "natural lego" which can form very complex molecules. I still have in mind one of the latest news revealing complex hydrocarbon molecules in Titan's upper atmosphere ( a molecule of 10 000 atoms!). So what occurs when the carbon atoms encounter (and interact with) a hydrocarbon solvent like what is probably found in those bodies of liquid(s). That's what I'm eager to know. |
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Dec 29 2007, 02:56 PM
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So what occurs when the carbon atoms encounter (and interact with) a hydrocarbon solvent like what is probably found in those bodies of liquid(s). That's what I'm eager to know. It probably resembles the non-halogenated organic waste container in a typical organic chemistry lab. The ratio of solvent, to goo, to gunk probably varies from lake to lake. The goo to gunk ratio might not vary much - it might depend more on relative solubilites of the components and the size of the "solventshed". Another analogy might be the lower level of the tray after cleaning a chain (motorcycle, chainsaw, bicycle) or other motor part in gasoline. At some point there will be hydrocarbon solvent (gas), and gunk - some polymeric material that doesn't really dissolve in the gasoline, but gets loosened up enough to drop off the chain. The color is probably pretty close to Titanian lake sediments too (hint: not pretty). -Mike -------------------- Some higher resolution images available at my photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31678681@N07/
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Dec 30 2007, 01:29 AM
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At some point there will be hydrocarbon solvent (gas), and gunk - some polymeric material that doesn't really dissolve in the gasoline, but gets loosened up enough to drop off the chain. The color is probably pretty close to Titanian lake sediments too (hint: not pretty). -Mike Uh...yecchh!!! Question: Do we see anything in the SARs that resemble completely filled in lakes from this crap? Seems as if this might be an analog to terrestrial sedimentary fills of similar lakes. Harkening back to Alaska again, I'd often see former lakes that had long since filled in & had young trees sprouting on them; they were pretty easy to identify in contrast to the surrounding terrain. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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belleraphon1 The Lakes and Seas of Titan: Observations From Cassini RADAR Dec 29 2007, 01:36 AM
nprev Thanks, BP! Good stuff in there; obviously m... Dec 29 2007, 02:01 AM
Juramike Here's a wild speculation:
What if the karst-... Dec 29 2007, 03:25 AM
Juramike QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 29 2007, 08:29 PM) Que... Dec 30 2007, 03:46 AM
belleraphon1 Titan.... goo-ology in action
http://www.planetar... Dec 29 2007, 03:58 AM
Juramike So the polar caps are the "schizzle layer... Dec 29 2007, 04:17 AM
nprev Ha!!!! Knew you'd be all over ... Dec 30 2007, 05:31 AM
tty QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 30 2007, 06:31 AM) So ... Dec 30 2007, 04:28 PM![]() ![]() |
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