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Heat-free Titan balloning?, one more for the wild ideas box
ngunn
post Jan 11 2008, 03:59 PM
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Thinking about all that methane rain descending on Titan's south pole, draining out into Mezzoramia and then - who knows where? - set me wondering . .

IF it seeps through a porous material it could possibly warm up at depth and re-emerge gradually at the surface as methane gas. This could be a peaceful process, like the emission of methane from a terrestrial marsh (or rubbish tip) rather than anything sudden or localised. Now suppose a large sheet of impermeable material is simply laid over the ground in such a place it might begin to trap methane underneath and become buoyant. Something like this is maybe what starts mid-latitude convection cells. Could it be possible to harness the phenomenon to lift balloons? Relatively cool balloons, smaller heat loss problems, very low power requirements. With a nitrogen atmosphere and methane both readily available on Earth the technology could be tested here.
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post Jan 15 2008, 01:24 PM
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Balloons are fine but has there been any talk on the prospects of using plane probes. That in my opinion is the final frontier of planetary exploration. An ariel surveyor is a tantalizing approach.

The same technology used for probing hurricanes can be used to perform such a project.
Mars is suitable for the first approach. Then Venus, Titan and then who knows where.

The technology is available. It is only a matter of willingness.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2005/s2508.htm


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- ngunn   Heat-free Titan balloning?   Jan 11 2008, 03:59 PM
- - rlorenz   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 11 2008, 10:59 AM) Thi...   Jan 11 2008, 04:24 PM
- - ngunn   I agree absolutely this is not a serious suggestio...   Jan 12 2008, 10:06 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 12 2008, 05:06 PM) And...   Jan 13 2008, 02:42 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (rlorenz @ Jan 13 2008, 02:42 PM) A...   Jan 13 2008, 09:42 PM
||- - JRehling   Keep in mind that 10K above normal means about 10%...   Jan 14 2008, 06:19 PM
||- - ngunn   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 14 2008, 06:19 PM) ...   Jan 14 2008, 09:52 PM
|- - Greg Hullender   Ralph: Just read your paper on hot air balloons on...   Jan 14 2008, 11:52 PM
- - Doc   Balloons are fine but has there been any talk on t...   Jan 15 2008, 01:24 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Doc @ Jan 15 2008, 08:24 AM) ...th...   Jan 15 2008, 03:47 PM
||- - centsworth_II   Another advantage of balloon over plane on Titan: ...   Jan 15 2008, 04:02 PM
||- - rlorenz   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Jan 15 2008, 11:02...   Jan 15 2008, 04:15 PM
||- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (rlorenz @ Jan 15 2008, 11:15 AM) T...   Jan 15 2008, 04:40 PM
||- - centsworth_II   I'm sure someone must have mentioned the obvio...   Jan 15 2008, 04:48 PM
||- - ngunn   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Jan 15 2008, 04:48...   Jan 15 2008, 08:18 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (Doc @ Jan 15 2008, 08:24 AM) Ballo...   Jan 15 2008, 04:07 PM
- - djellison   What can a plane do, that an orbiter can't do ...   Jan 15 2008, 01:58 PM
- - Greg Hullender   I know that for Microsoft Virtual Earth we were un...   Jan 15 2008, 02:10 PM
- - djellison   I can partially agree with that - the 25cm GetMapp...   Jan 15 2008, 02:16 PM


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