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Jan 22 2008, 02:59 PM
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JAXA wants to continue with Hayabusa 2. However there is/was a huge fight about the budget. Main problem was the budget for the launch vehicle. 2 months ago or so there was a report which said, that JAXA had to find another launch vehicle or the project gets cancelled. Now the Italian space agency played saviour and overed the VEGA. So finally we might see another Hayabusa in 2011.
It was mentioned here: http://www.jspec.jaxa.jp/080110Final_IPEWG-ProgramBook.pdf |
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Jan 3 2013, 09:37 PM
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From "Small carry-on impactor of Hayabusa2 mission"
A schematic of the shaped charge penetrator, a model, and a test impact. More pictures at the link. EDIT: The model pictured above is captioned: "Small model of the explosive part. Weight of the explosive is about 150 g." The schematic below is captioned: "Shape of explosive part. It has a liner face in the shape of a shallow dish. The weight of the explosive is about 4.5 kg." So it seems the actual impactor will have 30 times the explosive as the model. |
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Jan 4 2013, 07:48 AM
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This, actually is far better than the pictures and schematics carried in the document I was using. For instance, All I could find as the liner shape was a simple vertical line because only a cross section schematic was there in the document I was translating. Here, you can see a lot more. Anyway, I have been yapping about this mid spce explosion for a long time, thinking that such an explosion cannot possibly send the colliding mass in the right and accurate direction. I am now a lot happier. In case anybody is interested I am pasting the remaining pages of translation as follows. P P-7 Page title: Collision operation Outline: 1.Mothership descends to the asteroid with the collision device pointing to the asteroid 2.Seperation at an altitude of approx. 500m 3.Horizontal evacuation maneuver 4.DCAM seperation 5.Vertical evacuation maneuver 6.Detonation. Timing is by a pre-set timer. Timer is activated on detecting seperation. P-8 Page title: Evacuation time Time between seperation and detonation: If too short then delta V required for evacuation will get larger. If too long the error in colliding position will get larger, making the collision point area lager and/or fall to the asteroid before detonation (I remember there was a couple of pictures here, P) P-9 Page title: Evacuation maneuver and collision accuracy Time from seperation to detonation: 2400 seconds, collision point accuracy (radius) of approx. 200m, evacuation delta V is approx. 10m/s P-10 Page title: Explosive section: Shape: conical Liner: Copper without oxygeon Explosive charge: HMX type PBX Mass: Approx. 9kg (explosive charge alone is 4.5kg) P-11 Page title: Liner flight Liner shape: Shell type. Deformation time: < 0.5ms Relative collision velocity: > 2000m/s. Mass: > 2kg. P-12 Liner into sand experiment P-13 1/2 scale model tests P-14 1/2 scale model flight tests (continued) P-15 1/2 scale model flight tests (continued) P-16 Page title: Long flight tests Test flight distance of approx. 100m P-17 Page title: Long flight tests (continuation) Collision body : 1/1 scale model was used and it was confirmed that its intended flight shape was successfully formed by explosion P-18 Page title: Long flight tests (continuation) Deviation from designed flight path of less than 1 degree confirmed, velocity also confirmed P-19 Page title: Long flight tests (continuation) Observation of ejecta was carried out P-20 Page title: Summary Designed results confirmed and further improvements will be made. |
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Jan 28 2013, 08:21 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 817 Joined: 17-April 10 From: Kamakura, Japan Member No.: 5323 |
Below is just for your information.
March edition of Scientific American (Japanese version) apparently gives the names of those involved in Hayabusa 2 as follows. Project manager is Prof Hitoshi Kuninaka of JAXA (ISAS). Project scientist is Prof Seiichiro Watanabe of Nagoya University. His main interest is planet formation. Mission manager is Prof Makoto Yoshikawa of JAXA (ISAS and National Astronomical Observatory) P |
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Jan 29 2013, 11:41 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 817 Joined: 17-April 10 From: Kamakura, Japan Member No.: 5323 |
On my way back from a gym session I walked into a library and amazingly found the March edition of this Scientific American!
There was a short article in it with some photos. Photos apart, what caught my eyes were: 1. There will be a small camera to televise the moment of crater creation. 2. There will be 4 reaction wheels (instead of 3 on Hayabusa), all supposedly trouble free because JAXA now know what went wrong with Hayabusa reaction wheels. 3. Improved (on Akatsuki's) chemical engines. 4. More powerful (+ 20%) ion engines. P |
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Jan 29 2013, 12:27 PM
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Is the reason for the reaction wheels failure available to the public ?
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spdf Mission: Hayabusa 2 Jan 22 2008, 02:59 PM
maschnitz I was trying to hunt around for word on what happe... Jan 29 2009, 03:28 AM
Holder of the Two Leashes Not a great advertisement for translation software... Jan 29 2009, 04:44 PM
maschnitz So he's saying, basically - now or never on Ha... Jan 29 2009, 07:46 PM
mps Hayabusa 2 is currently planned to be launched wit... Jul 28 2009, 07:32 AM
stevesliva Fantastic. I love it when successful hardware get... Jul 28 2009, 05:21 PM
Paolo In the latest issue of Astronomy & Astrophysic... Aug 29 2009, 07:23 AM
Paolo on arXiv today Spitzer observations of the asteroi... Oct 2 2009, 05:19 AM
Paolo The latest issue of Nature mentions Hayabusa 2 whi... Jul 4 2010, 06:41 PM
Drkskywxlt I saw a presentation today on Hayabusa 2 that was ... Jul 14 2010, 07:47 PM
pandaneko An article found in today's (15 July) Asahi Sh... Jul 15 2010, 07:48 AM
pandaneko Oh, dear! I forgot to mention that Hayabusa 2 ... Jul 15 2010, 07:56 AM
pandaneko I now know Hayabusa 2's target. It is 1999JU3.... Jul 15 2010, 01:43 PM
Hungry4info Some diagrams and what-not. Aug 6 2010, 08:49 PM
pandaneko There was an article in today's (11 August) Y... Aug 11 2010, 12:27 PM

pandaneko My apologies, an explosive charge will be used to ... Aug 12 2010, 11:37 AM


pandaneko Further apologies
Please do not blame me. As I lo... Aug 12 2010, 11:50 AM



AndyG A crater that size would mean blasting out over 10... Aug 12 2010, 03:58 PM



Drkskywxlt My understanding is the spacecraft will be in a st... Aug 12 2010, 06:08 PM


pandaneko There was a repeat TV programme on Hayabusa and Ha... Aug 13 2010, 12:09 PM


pandaneko What follows is from WIKI on Hayabusa 2. I had a l... Aug 14 2010, 08:52 AM


pandaneko I should imagine that JAXA itself cannot carry any... Aug 15 2010, 12:10 PM


spdf http://www.planetaryprobe.eu/IPPW7/proceed...sion7... Aug 16 2010, 01:02 AM

pandaneko What follows is found on today's (10 Feb. 2012... Feb 10 2012, 12:13 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Aug 7 2010, 05:49 AM... Sep 18 2012, 09:58 AM
Blue Sky Is Prof. Kawaguchi involved in Hayabusa-2 at all? Sep 18 2012, 12:10 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (Blue Sky @ Sep 18 2012, 09:10 PM) ... Sep 19 2012, 11:30 AM
nprev Thanks, Pandaneko!
10^3 uprating--that's ... Aug 14 2010, 05:16 PM
nprev GREAT news!!!!
P., I know that Em... Dec 23 2010, 09:40 AM
pandaneko Yes, though only in Japanese, from the web digest ... Dec 23 2010, 10:15 AM
centsworth_II Here's the English version:
http://www.yomiuri... Dec 23 2010, 08:08 PM
pandaneko I have got this feeling that we may shift this top... Dec 24 2010, 09:15 AM
pandaneko Another crazy thought... I was not sure where I sh... Jan 25 2011, 10:10 AM
centsworth_II QUOTE (pandaneko @ Jan 25 2011, 05:10 AM)... Jan 25 2011, 11:15 AM
Littlebit As I recall, the problem with the Haybusa sampling... Jan 26 2011, 05:32 PM
pandaneko Thank you for clarification of MINERVA's role.... Jan 27 2011, 02:56 PM
ZLD Somewhere I read that the Hyabusa development cost... Jan 27 2011, 06:47 PM
djellison QUOTE (ZLD @ Jan 27 2011, 10:47 AM) Also,... Jan 27 2011, 07:04 PM
ZLD Doh, forgot that one. Thanks for reminding me. Jan 27 2011, 08:33 PM
pandaneko No, I cannot provide link information as all this ... Jan 30 2012, 08:41 AM
Paolo thanks for the update pandaneko!
cutting the b... Feb 10 2012, 03:38 PM
spdf Somewhere else they said, the 2014 launch depends ... Feb 10 2012, 07:34 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (spdf @ Feb 11 2012, 04:34 AM) Some... Apr 25 2012, 08:48 AM
pandaneko Nihon Keizai Shimbun here, a financial newspaper, ... May 25 2012, 07:28 AM
pandaneko QUOTE (pandaneko @ May 25 2012, 04:28 PM)... Jun 9 2012, 05:44 AM
pandaneko There is an interesting feature on JAXA Japanese w... Jun 25 2012, 07:09 AM
tolis UNNECESSARY QUOTING REMOVED - ADMIN
Paraphrasing ... Jun 28 2012, 04:13 PM
Blue Sky Here is a short article from the English edition o... Jun 28 2012, 11:42 PM
Explorer1 Why would it? The asteroid's gravity is too ne... Jun 29 2012, 12:51 AM
pandaneko QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Jun 29 2012, 09:51 AM)... Jul 2 2012, 09:13 AM
pandaneko QUOTE (pandaneko @ Jul 2 2012, 06:13 PM) ... Jan 2 2013, 12:49 PM
pandaneko Today, I actually managed to find an answer to thi... Jan 3 2013, 09:28 AM
Explorer1 Seems to me like the goal is both replicating Deep... Jul 2 2012, 08:54 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Jul 3 2012, 05:54 AM) ... Jul 5 2012, 08:03 AM
Paolo Hayabusa 2's structure complete http://www.jax... Dec 27 2012, 09:03 AM
elakdawalla That's great news. I wish JAXA posted higher-r... Dec 28 2012, 03:39 AM
Paolo high resolution pics are on JAXA digital archive
h... Dec 29 2012, 08:57 AM
pandaneko QUOTE (Paolo @ Dec 29 2012, 05:57 PM) hig... Dec 31 2012, 06:51 AM
TheAnt QUOTE (pandaneko @ Dec 31 2012, 07:51 AM)... Jan 1 2013, 10:30 AM
Paolo thank you for your translation, pandaneko, as usua... Jan 3 2013, 04:47 PM
pandaneko Quote removed - Mod
Thank you very much for this... Jan 4 2013, 02:14 AM
pandaneko QUOTE (MahFL @ Jan 29 2013, 09:27 PM) Is ... Jan 30 2013, 08:31 AM
Blue Sky Ah, so the explosive device is not "fired... Feb 7 2013, 08:55 PM
pandaneko What follows is from MSN-Sankei newspaper dated 07... Mar 19 2013, 08:41 AM
Explorer1 Wow! Now that's dedication to PR!
Yes,... Mar 19 2013, 05:01 PM
centsworth_II Most impressive to see that outreach in this case ... Mar 19 2013, 06:55 PM
nprev Impressive outreach indeed, but let's be caref... Mar 19 2013, 10:03 PM
Astro0 Hayabusa 2 Name and Message Campaign
http://www.... Apr 8 2013, 03:03 AM
monty python I love these send your name things. I can show sup... Apr 8 2013, 05:32 AM
punkboi You can now submit your name on the Japanese versi... Apr 10 2013, 04:39 AM
punkboi You can now submit your name on The Planetary Soci... Apr 16 2013, 12:36 AM
pandaneko I have checked with JAXA HP in English, but I coul... Apr 30 2013, 08:33 AM
stone " 2 piggy-backs to be launched with Hayabusa ... Apr 30 2013, 12:52 PM
TheAnt QUOTE (pandaneko @ Apr 30 2013, 10:33 AM)... Apr 30 2013, 07:01 PM
Paolo according to this presentation (undated but named ... Apr 30 2013, 05:00 PM
Explorer1 Is it also too late to use those 50 kilos on Hayab... May 1 2013, 01:23 AM
nprev Sure, but it would be a risk to rush a development... May 1 2013, 03:16 AM
vjkane Aviation Week and Space Technology reports that Ja... May 2 2013, 12:04 AM
Paolo for more info on the Mars aerocapture demonstrator... May 1 2013, 09:54 AM
Paolo Hayabusa 2 will be accompanied in solar orbit by t... Dec 12 2013, 07:57 AM
pandaneko QUOTE (Paolo @ Dec 12 2013, 04:57 PM) Hay... Apr 6 2014, 05:46 AM
pandaneko QUOTE (Paolo @ Dec 12 2013, 04:57 PM) Hay... Apr 10 2014, 10:10 PM
Paolo QUOTE (pandaneko @ Apr 11 2014, 12:10 AM)... Apr 11 2014, 05:26 AM
pandaneko This really is just in case what follows has evade... May 24 2014, 10:57 PM
Paolo a rather detailed description of PROCYON (in Japan... Jan 31 2014, 08:18 AM
pandaneko QUOTE (Paolo @ Jan 31 2014, 05:18 PM) a r... Apr 7 2014, 01:19 AM

Tom Dahl Thank you very much for the translations! Apr 7 2014, 04:49 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (Paolo @ Jan 31 2014, 05:18 PM) a r... Apr 7 2014, 11:05 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (Paolo @ Jan 31 2014, 05:18 PM) a r... Apr 8 2014, 10:33 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (Paolo @ Jan 31 2014, 05:18 PM) a r... Apr 10 2014, 11:16 AM
Paolo thank you Pandaneko, and welcome back! Apr 8 2014, 05:13 AM
nprev Pandaneko, just wanted to thank you for yet anothe... Apr 9 2014, 04:56 AM
Astro0 Fantastic work Pandaneko. Thank you so much for tr... Apr 10 2014, 11:19 AM
vikingmars Yes : thanks a lot Pandaneko for your translation.... May 25 2014, 03:17 PM![]() ![]() |
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