Anomalies in spacecraft velocities |
Anomalies in spacecraft velocities |
Feb 29 2008, 07:06 PM
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Very interesting story on SPACE.com regarding currently unexplained anomalies in the velocities of spacecraft after their Earth flybys.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0802...ft-anomaly.html Perhaps the twisting of spacetime induced by Earth's rotation could be gently altering the spacecraft's velocity. http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/200...FTOKEN=51791561 In any case its pretty cool to have an unexplained force meddling with our best laid plans. -------------------- It's a funny old world - A man's lucky if he gets out of it alive. - W.C. Fields.
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Feb 29 2008, 07:57 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 6474 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Mmm...don't forget that the gravitational constant G is the least precisely known of all the physical constants, and it's a direct coefficient for many trajectory calculations. I suspect that part of the answer lies in this uncertainty.
If anyone were to undertake a serious investigation of these anomalies, I'd suggest a very precisely balanced spin-stabilized vehicle (with operational mass known to the highest degree possible), minimal outgassing, and almost nothing ancillary but the basic bus functions needed to keep it stable & relay data that would do a high-perigee (to negate drag effects) Molinya style Earth orbit with supporting tracking. Think we're really getting very deep into the weeds here; statistical uncertainties seem like the most probable causes for these observed effects. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Mar 1 2008, 10:31 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 567 Joined: 4-September 06 From: Boston Member No.: 1102 |
...would do a high-perigee (to negate drag effects) Molinya style Earth orbit with supporting tracking. The effect seemed to be associated with unbound orbits. Did not seem to show up in simple orbit orbits--only fly by's or for craft unbound to the sun--ie leaving the solar system. -------------------- Floyd
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Mar 2 2008, 04:41 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1008 Joined: 29-November 05 From: Seattle, WA, USA Member No.: 590 |
The effect seemed to be associated with unbound orbits. Did not seem to show up in simple orbit orbits--only fly by's or for craft unbound to the sun--ie leaving the solar system. Not qute. Galileo was in elliptical solar orbit at each of its Earth flybys. It was hyperbolic with respect to Earth, but not the Sun. Remains to be seen what that should make any difference, of course. --Greg |
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