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Feb 29 2008, 07:06 PM
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Very interesting story on SPACE.com regarding currently unexplained anomalies in the velocities of spacecraft after their Earth flybys.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0802...ft-anomaly.html Perhaps the twisting of spacetime induced by Earth's rotation could be gently altering the spacecraft's velocity. http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/200...FTOKEN=51791561 In any case its pretty cool to have an unexplained force meddling with our best laid plans. -------------------- It's a funny old world - A man's lucky if he gets out of it alive. - W.C. Fields.
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Feb 29 2008, 08:00 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
According to one of Emily Lakdawalla's Planetary Society Blog entries,
at least some relativistic effects are already accounted for in spaceflight. Accounting for general relativity at Mercury "It turns out that general relativity is routinely accounted for in spacecraft navigation.... the NASA navigation software developed at JPL....incorporates the Ted Moyer formulations for navigation which includes mathematical expressions that describe the effects of general relativity." |
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Mar 2 2008, 04:56 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1688 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
According to one of Emily Lakdawalla's Planetary Society Blog entries, at least some relativistic effects are already accounted for in spaceflight. Accounting for general relativity at Mercury "It turns out that general relativity is routinely accounted for in spacecraft navigation.... the NASA navigation software developed at JPL....incorporates the Ted Moyer formulations for navigation which includes mathematical expressions that describe the effects of general relativity." I can also vouch for this about General Relativity. Back in the '70s when I worked briefly at JPL I wrote a numerical integration program to calculate planetary positions and conjunctions (as a hobby). This was based on information from DE96 (the latest JPL ephemeris at the time) and some other references. Like the procedure used in DE96, I included in my program explicit terms that correct for GR and utilized them for all the planets out to Saturn. This was the basis for my Sky and Telescope article in March 1979. EDIT: Some additional comments to this discussion. 1) I think Mercury has more of an effect partly due to its eccentric orbit, thus the precession of its perihelion is more noticeable compared to the case of a circular orbit. 2) The uncertainty of the Gravitational Constant is much greater than the uncertainty of the spacecraft orbits. The corresponding masses are also uncertain, but the combination of G and M still can be stated with higher precision. 3) I wonder if the JPL ephemerides would/should account for frame dragging (as noted in post #1), or something simple like forces generated by Earth's magnetic field? -------------------- Steve [ my home page and planetary maps page ]
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As old as Voyager Anomalies in spacecraft velocities Feb 29 2008, 07:06 PM
nprev Mmm...don't forget that the gravitational cons... Feb 29 2008, 07:57 PM
Floyd QUOTE (nprev @ Feb 29 2008, 02:57 PM) ...... Mar 1 2008, 10:31 PM
Greg Hullender QUOTE (Floyd @ Mar 1 2008, 02:31 PM) The ... Mar 2 2008, 04:41 AM
nprev That's pretty much a validation of how far dow... Feb 29 2008, 08:29 PM
mchan Emily's article describes comparison between p... Mar 1 2008, 06:21 AM
nprev Wow, did I ever overestimate!!! Same p... Mar 1 2008, 06:58 AM
remcook "The researchers looked at six deep-space pro... Mar 1 2008, 03:54 PM
Greg Hullender QUOTE (remcook @ Mar 1 2008, 07:54 AM) ... Mar 1 2008, 07:01 PM
nprev The author obviously meant the Voyagers...but the ... Mar 1 2008, 05:50 PM
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