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Mar 3 2008, 10:03 PM
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So has a landing site been chosen yet, anyone know? and what is the specific (or general) location... and don't just say "up north", latitude and longitude would be better.
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Apr 26 2008, 09:44 PM
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Someone asked whether Phoenix will land heading NW (diagonally up) or SE (diagonally down) on the landing ellipse. I assumed the formed but after some research seem to have been wrong! Here's the reasoning I figured out and gave that person, but did I miss something?:
Mars, on 25 May, is about 7.4 million km above the eclipitc. Phoenix, when it launched, was right on it (by definition). So at the moment it is approaching Mars from the South, will cross it's equator and head North. Mars' gravity will pull it back South just a little. So it will land from the North West and head South East (from higher to lower) in the landing elipse. Compare the following 3 images (load them, then use back / forward in your browser): http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?t...=1&showsc=1 http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?t...=1&showsc=1 http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?t...=1&showsc=1 That's Mars seen from above (in 1 minute intervals), and you can see Phoenix heading "down" again as it starts descending through the atmosphere That's what I can figure out, at least -------------------- |
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nnyspace Landing Site Mar 3 2008, 10:03 PM
djellison Well
"Latitude (centered): 68.2 ° Longitude ... Mar 3 2008, 11:22 PM
nnyspace Oh that answer my question, but it begets a new on... Mar 3 2008, 11:42 PM
djellison MSL - with an actively guided entry will be smalle... Mar 4 2008, 12:16 AM
dvandorn So, are those frost-heave cracks that form the pol... Mar 4 2008, 04:25 AM
mchan Well, the description does say "shallow... Mar 4 2008, 05:31 AM
Phil Stooke To be more specific, the illustration with three e... Mar 4 2008, 04:43 PM
centsworth_II Looking at the HiRise landing site images, I'm... Mar 4 2008, 04:48 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Mar 4 2008, 08:48 ... Mar 4 2008, 07:12 PM
Phil Stooke A lot depends on whether any distant topography is... Mar 4 2008, 05:13 PM
nnyspace I thought Phoenix was going to test high precision... Mar 4 2008, 05:40 PM
Phil Stooke Those tests were not for Phoenix but for future us... Mar 4 2008, 06:15 PM
nnyspace Ok, another question: how likely will it be that p... Mar 4 2008, 06:44 PM
Sunspot I had a dream last night that Phoenix didn't m... Mar 4 2008, 07:11 PM
Gsnorgathon Has anyone managed to do any radar soundings of th... Mar 4 2008, 08:24 PM
edstrick Earthbased radar at normal incidence angles is lim... Mar 5 2008, 10:39 AM
Decepticon I can't find any mention that a a site was pic... Mar 25 2008, 06:55 PM
Phil Stooke Yes, you missed something! This is the site:
... Mar 26 2008, 12:07 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Mar 26 2008, 08:07 A... Mar 26 2008, 03:18 PM
Spirit Could somebody provide a global map of Mars with t... Apr 15 2008, 04:33 PM
Stu QUOTE (Spirit @ Apr 15 2008, 05:33 PM) Co... Apr 15 2008, 04:39 PM
SkyeLab Folks,
I had a bit of a tinker to try and come up... Apr 16 2008, 09:33 AM
Stu Nice pic Brian, and a gorgeous place, but Peter Sm... Apr 16 2008, 10:08 AM
SkyeLab Thanks Stu,
Yeah I know it is probs a bit too hil... Apr 16 2008, 10:17 AM
Stu QUOTE (SkyeLab @ Apr 16 2008, 11:17 AM) T... Apr 16 2008, 10:29 AM
Stu This is the best I've been able to make with P... Apr 16 2008, 12:12 PM
SkyeLab Nice work Stu! I wonder if anyone else is goi... Apr 16 2008, 12:48 PM
Stu QUOTE (SkyeLab @ Apr 16 2008, 01:48 PM) N... Apr 16 2008, 12:51 PM
SkyeLab How has the response been so far? A while to go ye... Apr 16 2008, 01:09 PM
Stu QUOTE (SkyeLab @ Apr 16 2008, 02:09 PM) ... Apr 17 2008, 02:58 PM
ElkGroveDan Great image Stu, that definitely has a realistic a... Apr 17 2008, 03:01 PM
Stu QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Apr 17 2008, 04:01 P... Apr 17 2008, 03:04 PM
ElkGroveDan That's the right attitude! Apr 17 2008, 03:29 PM
imipak QUOTE (Stu @ Apr 17 2008, 03:04 PM) in MY... Apr 17 2008, 04:05 PM
Stu I must admit I'm struggling to make sense of t... Apr 17 2008, 04:17 PM
ustrax Stu my friend...a pity you can't compete...why... Apr 17 2008, 04:25 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (ustrax @ Apr 17 2008, 11:25 AM) I... Apr 18 2008, 09:14 AM
ustrax Why don't you hold on until the 24th of May to... Apr 18 2008, 11:12 AM
Phil Stooke Well, you got mine!
Phil Apr 17 2008, 04:25 PM
ustrax QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 17 2008, 05:25 P... Apr 17 2008, 04:28 PM
Phil Stooke Unfortunately I've been disqualified, so I... Apr 17 2008, 04:34 PM
ustrax QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 17 2008, 05:34 P... Apr 17 2008, 04:37 PM
Stu QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 17 2008, 05:34 P... Apr 17 2008, 06:02 PM
imipak Possibly of no relevance at all (and I know there ... Apr 17 2008, 06:09 PM
ElkGroveDan OK I'm no Stu, but here's my attempt: Apr 17 2008, 07:26 PM
ngunn These images are great fun - thanks all. I notice,... Apr 17 2008, 07:39 PM
SkyeLab OK,
Another effort.
Cheers
Brian Apr 18 2008, 09:08 AM
ngunn QUOTE (SkyeLab @ Apr 18 2008, 10:08 AM) A... Apr 18 2008, 11:22 AM
Stu QUOTE (SkyeLab @ Apr 18 2008, 10:08 AM) O... Apr 18 2008, 01:03 PM
ngunn Or this:
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=... Apr 18 2008, 02:18 PM
Juramike Or this:
Apr 18 2008, 05:26 PM
ustrax The goodies are already at Lisbon airport waiting ... Apr 18 2008, 07:11 PM
Stu Not long to go now...
WHAT WILL I SEE..?
The fi... Apr 21 2008, 03:18 PM
ustrax QUOTE (Stu @ Apr 21 2008, 04:18 PM) And w... Apr 21 2008, 04:01 PM
antipode Beautiful Stuart! I shivered while reading tha... Apr 21 2008, 11:12 PM
Stu Not a million percent accurate, and I fear that th... Apr 22 2008, 02:43 PM
djellison QUOTE (Stu @ Apr 22 2008, 03:43 PM) befor... Apr 22 2008, 02:52 PM

Stu QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 22 2008, 03:52 PM)... Apr 22 2008, 10:00 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (Stu @ Apr 22 2008, 06:43 AM) due a... Apr 22 2008, 02:55 PM
SpaceListener Phoenix's Landing site
What direction will Ph... Apr 24 2008, 07:35 PM
djellison What would be the point in using fuel now? I... Apr 24 2008, 07:59 PM
SpaceListener Thanks Doug for the answer.
QUOTE (djellison ... Apr 25 2008, 01:47 PM
slinted The latest MARCI Weather Report mentions a dust st... Apr 25 2008, 04:58 PM
elakdawalla Thanks for the reminder about that site, slinted; ... Apr 26 2008, 02:55 AM
dmuller When Phoenix meets Mars, the spacecraft will have ... Apr 26 2008, 07:24 AM
Stu We REALLY don't want to come down in the middl... Apr 26 2008, 01:42 PM
ElkGroveDan Unless we were to land just below that ridge right... Apr 26 2008, 02:41 PM
SpaceListener QUOTE (Stu @ Apr 26 2008, 07:42 AM) We RE... Apr 26 2008, 03:34 PM
Stu QUOTE (SpaceListener @ Apr 26 2008, 04:34... Apr 26 2008, 10:51 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (Stu @ Apr 26 2008, 05:51 PM) As Hi... Apr 27 2008, 12:19 AM
nprev Oh, good Lord, no!!!! (SL, I... Apr 26 2008, 05:12 PM
infocat13 [quote name='dmuller' date='Apr 26 200... Apr 26 2008, 10:05 PM
dmuller QUOTE (infocat13 @ Apr 27 2008, 08:05 AM)... Apr 27 2008, 02:25 AM
edstrick "...in the middle of this lot..."
It wo... Apr 27 2008, 08:19 AM
djellison It lands W to E because, looking at Mars, it flys ... Apr 27 2008, 09:09 AM
Stu Hmmm... this could be interesting, or it might be ... Apr 27 2008, 05:03 PM
ElkGroveDan Good eye Stu.
Imagine images of a geyser plume on... Apr 27 2008, 06:56 PM
ustrax QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Apr 27 2008, 07:56 P... Apr 28 2008, 09:51 AM
djellison I'd have thought they'd happen during the ... Apr 27 2008, 07:27 PM
Stu QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 27 2008, 08:27 PM)... Apr 27 2008, 07:35 PM
ElkGroveDan OK fine. No picture then. I remember when fol... Apr 27 2008, 10:46 PM
nprev Aah, c'mon. Dan...they do.
Speaking as one o... Apr 27 2008, 11:48 PM
SpaceListener Stu, 1 cm, impossible, then closer to 1 meter is t... Apr 28 2008, 02:37 AM
djellison QUOTE (SpaceListener @ Apr 28 2008, 03:37... Apr 28 2008, 07:23 AM![]() ![]() |
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