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Apr 8 2008, 09:37 PM
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http://www.lpi.usra.edu/opag/march_08_meeting/agenda.html
LOTS of interesting material here. Some highlights that interested me: Cassini extended-extended mission (XXM) could last 7 years and end with a series of very close (10,000's km) polar orbits through the D ring gap to enable close in gravity and magnetometer mapping a la Juno Argo proposal would be a New Horizon's class fly by of a Trojan, Saturn, Neptune/Triton, and one or more KBOs for ~$800M (but requires radioactive power source, so would seem to be out of contention for next New Frontiers) Joint Jupiter mission design. NASA supplied Europa orbiter now required to conduct Jupiter system science including up to 4 Io flybys. To fit within the $2.1B cap (with 33% margin), Europa orbit would be reduced to 60 days and several instruments from the Flagship proposal would be dropped including the narrow angle camera) Titan mission. Aerocapture no longer allowed, so craft would enter Saturn orbit first. Potentially allows new Enceladus observations. (Editorial note: Presentation was long on concepts, short on specifics. If this is an indication of the maturity of the mission concept, this does not bode well. I hope that this is only the style of presentation chosen by the presenter). Nature of ESA in situ probe(s) to be decided. ESA Cosmic Vision outer planet mission. ESA is considering three missions for the next cosmic vision mission: an outer planets joint mission with NASA (Jupiter or Titan/Saturn), XEUS (X-ray observatory), or LISA (gravity wave observatory). Down select to two of the three end of '09, final single mission selected in 2011. Radioisotope power. Lots of technical update, but a gem in the backup, the ASRG (Sterling engine) mission concepts being studied in more detail than I've seen elsewhere: Moon polar rover (2 concepts) Titan boat(!) Io observer Trojan lander Comet lander Comet coma rendezvou sample return Mars lander drill ("a tour through Martian history") Venus balloons (2) -------------------- |
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Apr 18 2008, 06:16 PM
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Again - you're talking as if ESA's going to write a big fat cheque to NASA. That's not how it can work - politically, that's an unacceptable thing to do. You do things like 'we'll do the launch vehicle, if we can have two instruments onboard' or 'you do the orbiter, we'll do the lander' but not ' here's a billion dollars, can we have in please?'
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vjkane March OPAG presentations available Apr 8 2008, 09:37 PM
tedstryk Option A for Argo, which includes a Jupiter flyby,... Apr 8 2008, 11:31 PM
tedstryk I will add one more thing. If the spacecraft is s... Apr 9 2008, 12:13 AM
volcanopele A few blog posts with my thoughts:
Io Volcanic Ob... Apr 9 2008, 12:29 AM
vjkane Some more thoughts on the presentations. First of... Apr 9 2008, 12:47 AM
ngunn QUOTE (vjkane @ Apr 9 2008, 01:47 AM) Som... Apr 9 2008, 11:19 AM
edstrick "...Cassini extended-extended mission (XXM) c... Apr 9 2008, 10:20 AM
ngunn A couple of comments on the Titan proposal. I... Apr 9 2008, 11:34 AM
vjkane QUOTE (ngunn @ Apr 9 2008, 12:34 PM) dire... Apr 9 2008, 02:04 PM
infocat13 QUOTE (vjkane @ Apr 8 2008, 04:37 PM) htt... Apr 9 2008, 09:09 PM
vjkane QUOTE (infocat13 @ Apr 9 2008, 10:09 PM) ... Apr 9 2008, 09:44 PM
Roly Very exciting to read the OPAG reports, I look for... Apr 10 2008, 02:47 PM
vjkane QUOTE (Roly @ Apr 10 2008, 03:47 PM) I ha... Apr 10 2008, 10:50 PM
gpurcell Very interesting stuff, thanks for posting.
The c... Apr 10 2008, 07:55 PM
vjkane I looked up the specs on New Horizon's LORRI c... Apr 11 2008, 06:56 AM
volcanopele Actually, the LORRI camera has an IFOV of 4.95 µm,... Apr 11 2008, 07:01 AM
vjkane QUOTE (volcanopele @ Apr 11 2008, 07:01 A... Apr 14 2008, 04:26 AM
ugordan QUOTE (vjkane @ Apr 14 2008, 06:26 AM) Ja... Apr 14 2008, 08:31 AM
vjkane This week's Aviation Week as an article about ... Apr 14 2008, 04:22 AM
rlorenz QUOTE (vjkane @ Apr 14 2008, 12:22 AM) Th... Apr 14 2008, 07:50 AM
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vjkane QUOTE (rlorenz @ Apr 14 2008, 07:50 AM) I... Apr 15 2008, 01:37 AM

rlorenz QUOTE (vjkane @ Apr 14 2008, 09:37 PM) AW... Apr 15 2008, 11:44 AM
DFortes QUOTE (rlorenz @ Apr 14 2008, 08:50 AM) I... Apr 15 2008, 09:55 AM
Stephen After reading the proposal for the Jovian OPF miss... Apr 17 2008, 03:56 AM
vjkane QUOTE (Stephen @ Apr 17 2008, 03:56 AM) O... Apr 17 2008, 05:48 AM
Stephen QUOTE (vjkane @ Apr 17 2008, 03:48 PM) Ea... Apr 17 2008, 10:38 AM
vjkane QUOTE (Stephen @ Apr 17 2008, 10:38 AM) A... Apr 17 2008, 02:38 PM
djellison Unfortunately, it's very VERY hard to do inter... Apr 17 2008, 10:45 AM
Stephen QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 17 2008, 08:45 PM)... Apr 21 2008, 07:03 AM
Mariner9 QUOTE (Stephen @ Apr 20 2008, 11:03 PM) T... Apr 22 2008, 06:28 AM
Greg Hullender I don't suppose the Euro being worth twice as ... Apr 18 2008, 04:26 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Apr 18 2008, 11:2... Apr 18 2008, 05:26 PM
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imipak QUOTE (vjkane @ Apr 19 2008, 02:29 AM) I ... Apr 19 2008, 09:49 AM


vjkane QUOTE (imipak @ Apr 19 2008, 09:49 AM) Th... Apr 19 2008, 05:12 PM

tedstryk QUOTE (I discount other Saturn observations in the... Apr 19 2008, 02:21 PM

vjkane QUOTE (tedstryk @ Apr 19 2008, 02:21 PM) ... Apr 19 2008, 05:18 PM
Mariner9 QUOTE (JRehling @ Apr 18 2008, 12:05 PM) ... Apr 19 2008, 05:14 AM
nprev Well said. Realpolitik is what it is, and frankly ... Apr 19 2008, 06:00 AM
SFJCody I favour the Titan/Saturn mission because the miss... Apr 19 2008, 07:18 AM
djellison Still not getting your point. We're no where n... Apr 21 2008, 07:27 AM
Stephen QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 21 2008, 05:27 PM)... Apr 21 2008, 10:57 AM
volcanopele Decoupled development schedules doesn't necess... Apr 21 2008, 07:39 AM
Stephen QUOTE (volcanopele @ Apr 21 2008, 05:39 P... Apr 21 2008, 11:15 AM
ngunn Here's a question. Which of the two possible o... Apr 21 2008, 08:46 AM
vjkane QUOTE (ngunn @ Apr 21 2008, 08:46 AM) Her... Apr 21 2008, 04:14 PM
Mark6 QUOTE (vjkane @ Apr 8 2008, 09:37 PM) htt... Apr 21 2008, 01:30 PM
djellison QUOTE (Mark6 @ Apr 21 2008, 02:30 PM) But... Apr 21 2008, 01:53 PM
stevesliva The prisoner's dilemma requires that the two p... Apr 21 2008, 07:33 PM
Juramike It was close, but it looks like Europa edged out T... May 5 2008, 03:12 PM
ngunn QUOTE (Juramike @ May 5 2008, 04:12 PM) I... May 5 2008, 09:25 PM
Juramike QUOTE (ngunn @ May 5 2008, 04:25 PM) ... May 5 2008, 09:44 PM
tedstryk I'm sorry, but whoever voted for colonizing Io... May 6 2008, 04:26 AM
nprev Mmm...natural 10cm-thick lead cranial shielding pe... May 6 2008, 04:43 AM
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