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Phoenix Real-Time Simulation Script, Seeking more details
dmuller
post Apr 14 2008, 01:30 AM
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I am in the midst of programming a rather simple javascript to keep track of Phoenix's progress (and later EDL) together with a timeline of events. The current version is online at www.dmuller.net/phoenix, but if anybody has more details, I would greatly appreciate any input, in particular of upcoming events and their anticipated timing, as well as details during the atmospheric flight (altitude, speed, downrange). For all times, it would also be great to know their timezone and whether they are SCET or ERT. The "positions" information is calculated based on data downloaded from the SSD Horizons system, which is available right up to the Entry Interface.

Naturally, I also welcome any suggestions on what other information could be added to the script.

I can also provide an off-line version of the script (does not require php) e.g. for public display in a visitor center.

Please post any information / feedback / requests either here or send me an email through my public profile on this board. I may not respond for a couple of days as I will not have internet access.

Thanks a lot to everybody!

Phoenix Entry Interface in 41 days 22 hours. Distance to fly: 79.7 million km. Altitude above Mars: 9.6 million km


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post May 4 2008, 01:48 AM
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An update with 22 days and 5 million kilometers to go ...

First my thanks to Emily for mentioning the simulation on her Planetary Society blog. It attracted a large crowd (avg 100 visits/day) and by now I get a steady stream of visitors to the simulation from people who have bookmarked the site. Great!

As for the script, all functionality is now included, including DSN coverage, virtual commentary during landing and a bigger font for the numbers. At the moment, the script is in "Spacecraf Event Time", and "Earth Received Time" will be enabled shortly.

The challenge now is to fine-tune the data during the first part of the atmospheric flight, in particular from Entry Interface to Parachute deployment. Therefore, again, if anybody has information on the following, please share them with me ... pretty please ...

(1) Precise timing for TCMs 4, 5, 6 and 6X

(2) Anticipated nominal altitude as a function of time and speed as a function of time (time being from Entry Interface or landing). Trajectory reconstructions for Spirit, Opportunity or Beagle-2 would be welcomed too ... I saw references made to them on the net, but havent actually found one :-( I did, however, find a neat one for the Huygens landing on Titan

Piecing together the snippets of interviews found on youtube just doesnt give the whole picture.

Also, if you manage / work for / represent etc a spaceflight educational outreach position (and dont have internet access there), I can create an offline version of the script. At last count, it's already heading that way to 3 such organizations on 3 continents.


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post May 15 2008, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE (dmuller @ May 3 2008, 07:48 PM) *
...The challenge now is to fine-tune the data during the first part of the atmospheric flight, in particular from Entry Interface to Parachute deployment. Therefore, again, if anybody has information on the following, please share them with me ... pretty please ...

(2) Anticipated nominal altitude as a function of time and speed as a function of time (time being from Entry Interface or landing). Trajectory reconstructions for Spirit, Opportunity or Beagle-2 would be welcomed too ... I saw references made to them on the net, but havent actually found one :-( I did, however, find a neat one for the Huygens landing on Titan


http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/bitstre...8/1/05-2473.pdf "Landing on Mars" with a velocity vs altitude chart for all the past and current entry phase stuff. You could integrate it somehow to get downrange vs time, then the things you want.

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntr..._2008012906.pdf "2007 Mars Phoenix EDL Simulation and Modeling Analysis" Another velocity vs altitude chart.

http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/bitstre...7/1/95-0980.pdf "Mars Pathfinder Atmospheric Entry Trajectory Design" includes an altitude and acceleration as function of time from entry interface. For Mars Pathfinder, so not particularly relevant.

All of these references say that Phoenix is similar to MER entry trajectory, which is very well documented (search ntrs.nasa.gov).

http://starbrite.jpl.nasa.gov/pds-explorer...ume=merimu_1001 Mars Exploration Rover EDL accelerometer record

I've seen acceleration and velocity vs time from entry interface charts, but I can't locate them again.

I'm working on a Phoenix model for Orbiter http://orbitersim.com and it looks like I have a valid aerodynamic and atmosphere model, since it is hitting exactly 9.2G peak on entry. I'll be able to get an extraordinarily complete log of my model's entry. I plan on publishing the model before the real thing does its entry.
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post May 16 2008, 01:21 AM
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Thanks Kwan for the links. Interesting reading, and please do make the orbitersim.com Phoenix model available for public use :-)

Meanwhile, the following animation has been put up at http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/videos.php#edl_hud, very useful for my project, and impressive as is:
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Phoenix EDL Animation - This animation featuring a heads-up display shows second-by second the entry, descent and landing of the Phoenix Mars Lander on May 25, 2008. The animation was created by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory's Solar System Visualization Project.
Low Bandwidth English Units (5.7 MB)
Low Bandwidth Metric Units (5.7 MB)
High Bandwidth English Units (47.3 MB)
High Bandwidth Metric Units (42.9 MB)


I will still use your references for the time from Entry Interface to plasma blackout.

Daniel


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- dmuller   Phoenix Real-Time Simulation Script   Apr 14 2008, 01:30 AM
- - Zvezdichko   Great work, I like it.   Apr 14 2008, 07:03 AM
- - djellison   Now that is very very cool. I would say this i...   Apr 14 2008, 07:08 AM
- - dmuller   Thanks Doug. That was the graph I was working from...   Apr 17 2008, 04:50 AM
- - Spirit   Does your script predict how many Gs will the spac...   Apr 21 2008, 12:33 PM
- - dmuller   QUOTE (Spirit @ Apr 21 2008, 10:33 PM) Do...   Apr 21 2008, 01:49 PM
- - dmuller   An update with 22 days and 5 million kilometers to...   May 4 2008, 01:48 AM
|- - kwan3217   QUOTE (dmuller @ May 3 2008, 07:48 PM) .....   May 15 2008, 06:31 PM
|- - dmuller   Thanks Kwan for the links. Interesting reading, an...   May 16 2008, 01:21 AM
|- - kwan3217   QUOTE (kwan3217 @ May 15 2008, 11:31 AM) ...   May 22 2008, 05:50 AM
|- - BrianJ   QUOTE (kwan3217 @ May 22 2008, 05:50 AM) ...   May 22 2008, 11:38 AM
- - Zvezdichko   I'm unable to open the web site ;(   May 4 2008, 06:47 AM
- - dmuller   QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ May 4 2008, 04:47 PM)...   May 4 2008, 09:47 AM
- - jamescanvin   I've had no problems accessing the site from w...   May 4 2008, 03:07 PM
- - dmuller   Looks like the host server has problems as I cant ...   May 4 2008, 03:28 PM
- - dmuller   With 4 1/2 days to landing, and after 3,500 websit...   May 21 2008, 12:03 PM
- - tanjent   One question, dmuller. I have been watching your r...   May 21 2008, 03:47 PM
- - dmuller   Hi Tanjent ... good spotting! no worries, it...   May 21 2008, 04:05 PM
- - djellison   FYI - this works beautifully on an iPhone/iPod Tou...   May 21 2008, 04:18 PM
|- - dmuller   QUOTE (djellison @ May 22 2008, 02:18 AM)...   May 22 2008, 12:42 AM
- - dmuller   Hello again Tanjent ... I had a nice strong cup of...   May 22 2008, 01:20 AM
|- - tanjent   OK then, I'm somewhat relieved although I figu...   May 22 2008, 05:06 PM
- - Skyrunner   Perhaps a bit late but are these of any help? 200...   May 22 2008, 09:17 PM
- - dmuller   Announcement for those following the Phoenix Real-...   May 24 2008, 06:07 AM
|- - ugordan   Daniel, what does the mark event "Gravitation...   May 25 2008, 11:01 AM
- - dmuller   Mmm yes I have seen that too. The timing of the ev...   May 25 2008, 12:04 PM
|- - Stu   QUOTE (dmuller @ May 25 2008, 01:04 PM) I...   May 25 2008, 04:10 PM
|- - DFinfrock   QUOTE (Stu @ May 25 2008, 04:10 PM) it...   May 25 2008, 06:35 PM
- - scalbers   Hello Dmuller, Nice utility with the timeline. I ...   May 25 2008, 03:40 PM
- - dmuller   QUOTE (scalbers @ May 26 2008, 01:40 AM) ...   May 25 2008, 09:15 PM
|- - Stu   Daniel, your script looks great projected on my wa...   May 25 2008, 09:52 PM
- - lyford   Just adding my thanks as well - looks great!   May 25 2008, 09:55 PM
- - dmuller   Thanks everybody for the kind words. I'm glad ...   May 26 2008, 09:49 AM
|- - Skyrunner   QUOTE (dmuller @ May 26 2008, 11:49 AM) 1...   May 26 2008, 09:59 AM
- - dmuller   it is 17,300 visits and 22,000 page views accordin...   May 26 2008, 10:12 AM
|- - SpaceListener   QUOTE (dmuller @ May 26 2008, 05:12 AM) T...   May 26 2008, 02:00 PM
- - Astro0   Hi All, I met Daniel today during this visit to th...   May 26 2008, 12:51 PM
- - dmuller   Well, in whatever measure, it was a lot of visitor...   May 27 2008, 02:40 AM
- - dmuller   Thanks Astro0, you did an excellent job keeping ev...   May 27 2008, 04:14 AM
- - dmuller   I started a new thread at http://www.unmannedspace...   May 31 2008, 01:01 AM


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