Portuguese to Start Speaking Brazillian?, What's next? British switching to American? |
Portuguese to Start Speaking Brazillian?, What's next? British switching to American? |
May 17 2008, 03:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
Knowing that there is at least one (esteemed) member of UMSF from Portugal, this news item got my attention:
Brazil Prompts Portugal to Update Portuguese http://www.tampabay.com/news/bizarre/article510864.ece# "Under the agreement, which was hotly contested, the spelling will more closely match the way words are pronounced by removing silent consonants. Also, the alphabet expands to 26 letters with the introduction of k, w and y..." Wow. Changing the alphabet. That sounds pretty radical to me. "Hotly contested." I'll bet! |
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May 17 2008, 04:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2922 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
Why do Brasialians need KaWaYs ?
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May 17 2008, 04:43 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14433 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
Colour
Theatre Metre And I'll throw tea-bags at anyone who disagrees with me Doug |
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May 17 2008, 05:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3419 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Member No.: 15 |
Ah, the Americans and the British -- two cultures, separated by a common language...
-the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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May 17 2008, 06:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
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May 17 2008, 07:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 723 Joined: 13-June 04 Member No.: 82 |
My favourite difference in pronunciation:
a-LOO-mih-num vs. a-lyoo-MIN-ee-um |
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May 17 2008, 07:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
a-LOO-mih-num vs. a-lyoo-MIN-ee-um "Sir Humphry made a bit of a mess of naming this new element, at first spelling it alumium (this was in 1807) then changing it to aluminum, and finally settling on aluminium in 1812." http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/aluminium.htm |
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May 17 2008, 08:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3419 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Member No.: 15 |
And us contrary Americans settled on the middle version of the spelling... It's not that we just fail to pronounce a final "i" in the word, we don't even include it in the spelling of the word!
And who knew, as us humans quibbled over semantics, that this same metal was the primary component of the lunar highlands that shined over our heads at night? -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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May 17 2008, 08:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
In 1812 we weren't interested in any damn redcoat spelling for a metal that nobody had ever laid eyes on, anyway!
The real problem is with "vitamin". That pronunciation is just plain ornery. -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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May 17 2008, 09:21 PM
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Rover Driver Group: Members Posts: 1015 Joined: 4-March 04 Member No.: 47 |
I often thing of UK english spelling as a French version of the US spelling, but somehow never dared to say that out loud here in the UK, since it's pretty insulting
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May 17 2008, 10:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 213 Joined: 21-January 07 From: Wigan, England Member No.: 1638 |
Colour Theatre Metre And I'll throw tea-bags at anyone who disagrees with me I think you'd better get yer tea-bags out (for throwing at yourself), since you've recently used program (as in TV show), meter (as in distance) and favorite. Those are just the ones I recall from memory; I'm sure a forum search would dredge-up a few more. |
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May 17 2008, 10:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 213 Joined: 21-January 07 From: Wigan, England Member No.: 1638 |
Wow. Changing the alphabet. That sounds pretty radical to me. "Hotly contested." I'll bet! Perhaps they just want to make the most of their new Apple wireless keyboards. Personally, I think it's too little, too late. There are some experts who believe all written languages will be obsolete in just 50 years... |
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May 17 2008, 11:18 PM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8784 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
There are some experts who believe all written languages will be obsolete in just 50 years... OMG! 2kewl! (That's gonna KILL text-addicted teenagers...) BTW, off-the-cuff observation here: Anybody ever noticed that it's apparently much easier for British actors to imitate the standard American accent & pronounciation rather than vice versa? Wondered why that is for some time. I can do Southern, Northern Plains (think the movie Fargo) and New Jersey/NYC accents, but cannot do any of the UK accents. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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May 18 2008, 01:07 AM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 4763 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 197 |
Colour Theatre Metre And I'll throw tea-bags at anyone who disagrees with me Doug Fries Gas Trunk Truck Tire Neighbor ..and I'll throw cheeseburgers back at you. -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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May 18 2008, 01:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 4763 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 197 |
And while we are on the subject the French guys can weigh in on how painful it is to listen to a Quebec-er. Since I learned to speak it fluently there among other children, I've gotten more than a few dirty looks for speaking with that accent. In high school I had a substitute French teacher throw a book at me from across the room for what he thought was a painful pronunciation of "chair" in French.
-------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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