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djellison
post May 20 2008, 09:01 PM
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Myself, Chris Lintott, and Peter Grindrod will be gathering at Sir Patrick Moore's house, Farthings in Selsey, on Sunday afternoon. The four of us will be Blogging, uStreaming and Youtubing our way through the night, pulling together any and every source of information we can find, previewing the events of the evening, and hopefully filling the gaps between NASA TV coverage. I'll also be making sure we 'stand down' during Emily's hour at JPL, as frankly, I want to watch it myself!

We've set up a blog to preview events and to be a home for the content we come up with on the big night - hopefully some of you will pop in and pass comment through the night! We will have more details closer to the time at http://www.marslive.co.uk
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dvandorn
post May 21 2008, 05:02 AM
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Ah, but... this whole discussion depends on accepting the concept of simultaneity. And in a relativistic universe, there is no such animal.

Until and unless anyone figures out how to propogate information faster than C, as far as our perceptions are concerned, nothing "occurs" until we perceive it.

So I'm an ERT kind of guy. I just don't accept that simultaneity is a valid concept... rolleyes.gif

edit: To put it more clearly, I don't think of events at Mars as happening ten minutes ago. I think of them as happening ten light-minutes away. For me, it's a function of distance, not time.

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post May 21 2008, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 21 2008, 03:02 PM) *
And in a relativistic universe, there is no such animal.

Aaah relativity ... so we should not look at all as we might kill Schroeder's cat, errrr NASA's Phoenix

QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 21 2008, 03:02 PM) *
nothing "occurs" until we perceive it.

but but we dont want the landing to simply "occur", we want to make it happen! So I'll be watching 15 mins 20 secs ahead of SCET because that's the last time we could make changes wheel.gif

Gee I'm glad I studied Economics after all. Relativistic theory with a pinch of salt is so much more fun.

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- djellison   Mars Live - Phoenix Coverage   May 20 2008, 09:01 PM
- - Oersted   Will be there, virtually, and... munch, munch...   May 20 2008, 09:28 PM
- - Stu   Oh good, ANOTHER website to keep an eye on on land...   May 20 2008, 09:44 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   This might be a good place for a comprehensive lis...   May 20 2008, 10:02 PM
|- - Stu   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ May 20 2008, 11:02 P...   May 20 2008, 10:48 PM
|- - tim53   I will be bringing my latest landing site map with...   May 20 2008, 11:05 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (Stu @ May 20 2008, 11:48 PM) Well,...   May 21 2008, 07:37 AM
||- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (ustrax @ May 21 2008, 03:37 AM) He...   May 21 2008, 10:02 PM
||- - ustrax   Well...let's call it a well kept secret... ...   May 21 2008, 10:05 PM
|- - 1101001   QUOTE (Stu @ May 20 2008, 02:48 PM) Well,...   May 21 2008, 09:49 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I'm old enough to remember when UMSF was all y...   May 20 2008, 10:13 PM
- - nprev   Gonna stay home, crack me a few cold ones, and wat...   May 21 2008, 12:29 AM
- - elakdawalla   Nprev, the biggest drawback to watching the missio...   May 21 2008, 01:57 AM
- - nprev   Well, if it gets to be too much for you, give me a...   May 21 2008, 02:22 AM
- - dmuller   Other than where you follow it, I'm just wonde...   May 21 2008, 02:43 AM
- - elakdawalla   Whenever I follow a critical mission event I'm...   May 21 2008, 02:48 AM
- - dvandorn   Ah, but... this whole discussion depends on accept...   May 21 2008, 05:02 AM
|- - climber   QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 21 2008, 07:02 AM) ...   May 21 2008, 05:19 AM
|- - dmuller   QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 21 2008, 03:02 PM) ...   May 21 2008, 08:34 AM
- - djellison   Here's how I'm going to play it. On space...   May 21 2008, 07:22 AM
- - PhilCo126   Doug, do You guys already have an idea if a BBC TV...   May 21 2008, 04:55 PM
|- - chrislintott   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ May 21 2008, 04:55 PM)...   May 21 2008, 07:02 PM
- - djellison   Nope - BBC's not involved at all. Doug   May 21 2008, 05:22 PM
- - Julius   I'm gonna have to stay up really late and hop...   May 21 2008, 05:26 PM
- - Sunspot   Still not sure i'm going to be brave enough to...   May 21 2008, 05:28 PM
- - Stu   Oh Sunspot, you'll be watching with the rest o...   May 21 2008, 07:05 PM
- - dvandorn   Speaking of "The Sky at Night," is there...   May 21 2008, 07:50 PM
|- - Del Palmer   QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 21 2008, 08:50 PM) ...   May 21 2008, 08:06 PM
|- - PaulM   QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 21 2008, 07:50 PM) ...   May 22 2008, 05:40 PM
- - nprev   As a side note, the forum's sure starting to g...   May 22 2008, 12:35 AM
- - Zeke4ther   Most definitely   May 22 2008, 03:37 AM
- - dvandorn   Oh, yes -- as much as I'm trying to hold it ba...   May 22 2008, 04:05 AM
- - dmuller   QUOTE (ustrax @ May 21 2008, 05:37 PM) He...   May 22 2008, 03:47 PM
|- - Stu   Haven't forgotten UMSF from my list, don't...   May 22 2008, 03:50 PM
|- - climber   QUOTE (Stu @ May 22 2008, 05:50 PM) Haven...   May 22 2008, 04:27 PM
- - Stu   I'm not THAT nervous! I didn't menti...   May 22 2008, 04:44 PM
- - chrislintott   You should be able to watch the programs on www.bb...   May 22 2008, 06:47 PM
- - eeergo   Long time lurker, and hoping this will be the firs...   May 22 2008, 09:36 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   Everyone is now invited over to the EDL discussion...   May 25 2008, 10:19 PM


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