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Robot Arm - Observations and Excavations
Steve G
post May 30 2008, 05:15 AM
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Tricky to line up the two RAC images but here is my attempt.

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djellison
post May 31 2008, 08:36 AM
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The arm can't get to THAT Ice, the 'upper arm' is probably longer than the height from where the arm meets the deck to ground. But - you can see that where the dust blew away - it's everywhere. 5cm of soil, then ice. As they predicted (maybe smile.gif )

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- Steve G   Robot Arm - Observations and Excavations   May 30 2008, 05:15 AM
- - MicroKid   Any idea what the long spiral looking object (lowe...   May 30 2008, 06:26 AM
|- - nilstycho   Phoenix twitters "The picture shows a little ...   May 31 2008, 05:08 PM
- - Steve G   I was wondering that when I stitched the images to...   May 30 2008, 06:48 AM
- - djellison   EGD had a go at this in the Sol 3+ thread, I'm...   May 30 2008, 07:51 AM
- - djellison   If I had to guess what it was - I'd say someth...   May 30 2008, 07:54 AM
- - um3k   Sure looks like ice to me: http://fawkes3.lpl.ariz...   May 31 2008, 03:47 AM
|- - bcory   QUOTE (um3k @ May 30 2008, 11:47 PM) Sure...   May 31 2008, 04:18 AM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (um3k @ May 30 2008, 07:47 PM) Sure...   May 31 2008, 05:35 AM
- - dvandorn   Could be ancient duricrust, buried under a more re...   May 31 2008, 04:57 AM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 30 2008, 08:57 PM) ...   May 31 2008, 05:40 AM
||- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ May 31 2008, 12:40 A...   May 31 2008, 05:51 AM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 31 2008, 05:57 AM) ...   May 31 2008, 08:59 AM
- - James Sorenson   OMFG Im gonna need that swear jar now . It looks...   May 31 2008, 06:24 AM
- - djellison   The arm can't get to THAT Ice, the 'upper ...   May 31 2008, 08:36 AM
- - djellison   Couple of RAC obs.   May 31 2008, 11:15 AM
|- - ustrax   If that is ice...that is GOLD!!! The ...   May 31 2008, 01:36 PM
- - Doc   I dont think thats ice. Wouldnt we see signs of su...   May 31 2008, 11:39 AM
- - eeergo   I don't think smoke would be seen if it was ic...   May 31 2008, 12:04 PM
- - nprev   Wouldn't the ability of any 'smoke' to...   May 31 2008, 12:38 PM
- - tasp   Visible 'plumage' from exposed ice would d...   May 31 2008, 12:47 PM
|- - DDAVIS   'Visible 'plumage' from exposed ice wo...   May 31 2008, 02:12 PM
- - tasp   LOL. See what happens when it takes me 10 minutes...   May 31 2008, 12:49 PM
- - nprev   Just out of curiousity, with respect to the viewpo...   May 31 2008, 02:32 PM
- - bcory   All I can say that it seems to me that whatever it...   May 31 2008, 03:11 PM
- - ilbasso   What's the size of those patches relative to t...   May 31 2008, 03:14 PM
- - scalbers   It was interesting at Friday's news conference...   May 31 2008, 03:24 PM
- - Marz   Assuming those plates are ice [w00t!!...   May 31 2008, 04:25 PM
- - MahFL   The Phoenix site seems down   May 31 2008, 04:33 PM
|- - bcory   QUOTE (MahFL @ May 31 2008, 12:33 PM) The...   May 31 2008, 04:40 PM
|- - teck   Is this a Philips screw?   May 31 2008, 05:09 PM
|- - um3k   QUOTE (bcory @ May 31 2008, 11:40 AM) It ...   May 31 2008, 05:25 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (um3k @ May 31 2008, 10:25 AM) Did ...   May 31 2008, 11:38 PM
|- - mars loon   QUOTE (nprev @ Jun 1 2008, 12:38 AM) Phoe...   May 31 2008, 11:51 PM
- - Decepticon   If this does to turn out to frozen water, will thi...   May 31 2008, 04:46 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Decepticon @ May 31 2008, 12:46 PM...   May 31 2008, 04:54 PM
|- - James Sorenson   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ May 31 2008, 08:54...   May 31 2008, 05:10 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (James Sorenson @ May 31 2008, 07:1...   May 31 2008, 05:24 PM
- - vikingmars   With alittle processing you can see more easily un...   May 31 2008, 04:49 PM
- - scalbers   These under the lander images are really neat and ...   May 31 2008, 04:59 PM
- - Decepticon   QUOTE Do all the cleared off spots correlate well ...   May 31 2008, 05:05 PM
- - scalbers   At the cold ambient temperatures sublimation would...   May 31 2008, 05:20 PM
- - dot.dk   Remember there is the rasp on the backside of the ...   May 31 2008, 05:27 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (dot.dk @ May 31 2008, 12:27 PM) Re...   May 31 2008, 05:33 PM
|- - nilstycho   I wonder what would be the pros and cons of a heat...   May 31 2008, 05:47 PM
- - eeergo   They were expecting the hard ground, remember they...   May 31 2008, 05:44 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (eeergo @ May 31 2008, 12:44 PM) Th...   May 31 2008, 05:51 PM
|- - Cargo Cult   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ May 31 2008, 06:51...   May 31 2008, 06:37 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Cargo Cult @ May 31 2008, 02:37 PM...   May 31 2008, 06:58 PM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   I've enhanced to under-side image to improve v...   May 31 2008, 07:04 PM
- - bcory   http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/234067main_unde...   May 31 2008, 06:04 PM
- - OWW   Scary thought: It could be frozen pools of leaked/...   May 31 2008, 06:26 PM
- - climber   Holy cow, it's ICE : http://planetary.org/blog   May 31 2008, 07:03 PM
- - Steve G   I think this is a splendid opportunity to put MARD...   May 31 2008, 07:03 PM
- - bcory   Maybe the thrusters melted some of the ice and fo...   May 31 2008, 07:39 PM
|- - MahFL   The whole point of the mission is to find Water Ic...   May 31 2008, 08:24 PM
|- - mars loon   This JPL press release has a bit more detail about...   May 31 2008, 10:12 PM
- - SpaceListener   Normally, the surface of ice is plain, 90 degree t...   May 31 2008, 11:45 PM
- - nprev   Glad to hear that CNN is exercising some restraint...   Jun 1 2008, 12:04 AM
- - eeergo   QUOTE (SpaceListener @ Jun 1 2008, 01:45 ...   Jun 1 2008, 12:28 AM
|- - SpaceListener   QUOTE (eeergo @ May 31 2008, 07:28 PM) Ta...   Jun 1 2008, 02:36 AM
|- - JRehling   The polygonal surface of the soil is enough to tel...   Jun 1 2008, 03:38 AM
- - bcory   Accept here we're talking about permafrost gro...   Jun 1 2008, 12:32 AM
- - jmjawors   For the record, CNN is reporting it, but thankfull...   Jun 1 2008, 12:36 AM
- - Thu   The ChemCam should be very helpful in this case. D...   Jun 1 2008, 01:45 AM
|- - tuvas   QUOTE (Thu @ May 31 2008, 06:45 PM) The C...   Jun 1 2008, 03:11 AM
- - James Sorenson   New images, is this a scoop mark in the soil? htt...   Jun 1 2008, 05:26 AM
|- - jmjawors   QUOTE (James Sorenson @ Jun 1 2008, 12:26...   Jun 1 2008, 05:41 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (James Sorenson @ Jun 1 2008, 06:26...   Jun 1 2008, 09:04 AM
- - ElkGroveDan   Now this one is cool, scoop, CD, and flag all in o...   Jun 1 2008, 05:34 AM
- - glennwsmith   ElkGroveDan, I thought you were going to referenc...   Jun 1 2008, 06:53 AM
|- - 1101001   Any speculation as to the cause of the hollows in ...   Jun 1 2008, 07:02 AM
- - Steve G   Sure looks like dirty ice, like what you see in th...   Jun 1 2008, 07:28 AM
- - climber   I agree we've got to be cautious but, come on ...   Jun 1 2008, 08:06 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (climber @ Jun 1 2008, 03:06 AM) .....   Jun 1 2008, 08:22 AM
- - Syrinx   Sorry to deviate from the excitement of ice for a ...   Jun 1 2008, 09:15 AM
|- - climber   QUOTE (Syrinx @ Jun 1 2008, 11:15 AM) Sor...   Jun 1 2008, 10:11 AM
|- - Airbag   I attempted to make an RGB image with one of the s...   Jun 1 2008, 01:21 PM
|- - nilstycho   But we do have relative knowledge of exposures...   Jun 1 2008, 04:30 PM
|- - mhoward   QUOTE (nilstycho @ Jun 1 2008, 10:30 AM) ...   Jun 1 2008, 04:34 PM
|- - ugordan   Knowing the exposures doesn't help us really. ...   Jun 1 2008, 04:41 PM
|- - nilstycho   Ah, OK. I forgot about the histogram stretch. So o...   Jun 1 2008, 09:16 PM
- - dvandorn   Here is an observation that I will note I haven...   Jun 1 2008, 04:16 PM
- - Phil Stooke   "Regarding the screw underneath the lander. M...   Jun 1 2008, 04:42 PM
- - djellison   They don't have to deal with it - they have ca...   Jun 1 2008, 10:14 PM
|- - nilstycho   So do the originals hit PDS eventually, and until ...   Jun 1 2008, 11:40 PM
|- - john_s   Two reasons really- one is that the science team w...   Jun 2 2008, 12:24 AM
|- - nilstycho   Of course: Anti-scoopage. Thank you.   Jun 2 2008, 01:24 AM
- - cschmidt   Thinking again about the ice, I have been wonderin...   Jun 1 2008, 10:51 PM
|- - jbytów   .   Jun 1 2008, 11:25 PM
- - elakdawalla   Anti-scoopage is an important part of it, but that...   Jun 2 2008, 01:50 AM
- - nprev   Kind of hate to ask this, but if a given amount of...   Jun 2 2008, 02:17 AM
|- - Tom Tamlyn   One of the MRO engineers is continuing to post fas...   Jun 2 2008, 03:33 AM
- - alan   Speaking of scoopage the arm has grabbed its first...   Jun 2 2008, 04:51 AM
|- - jmjawors   QUOTE (alan @ Jun 1 2008, 11:51 PM) Speak...   Jun 2 2008, 05:06 AM
|- - Reed   Looks like it was scooped from the same area as th...   Jun 2 2008, 05:22 AM
- - dvandorn   If this was the scoop-and-dump, the scoop leaks. ...   Jun 2 2008, 05:43 AM
- - James Sorenson   False-color image saturated to 60%, of the RA sc...   Jun 2 2008, 05:59 AM
|- - Marz   whoa! Are the small clumps of blueish-white ...   Jun 2 2008, 06:07 AM
- - djellison   I had a go at it myself - the LED's really wor...   Jun 2 2008, 06:14 AM
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