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STS-124, Kibo to the ISS
David
post May 31 2008, 02:33 PM
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Discovery is currently being fueled on pad 39A.
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post Jun 3 2008, 07:21 PM
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I have no idea if this contributed to the pad damage, but I thought it quite noticeable that Discovery's rise off the pad was significantly slower than I'm used to seeing for a shuttle. I attributed it to the weight of Kibo, which IIRC is one of the heaviest payloads the shuttle has ever carried.

Could a fractional increase in the time it took for the stack to clear the pad have added enough stress to the flame diversion pits and the entire pad structure that damage you wouldn't have seen after a "regular" launch was caused by this one?

The flame trench, after all, has stood up to eleven Saturn V launches and countless (nearing 100) shuttle launches. Is it merely age and wear that finally got to it this time, I wonder, or a slightly more stressful launch sequence?

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- David   STS-124   May 31 2008, 02:33 PM
- - karolp   I've just read the press kit for STS-124 and i...   May 31 2008, 03:42 PM
|- - Marz   Looks like they've saved the best module for l...   May 31 2008, 04:17 PM
|- - ugordan   Where can one find the ground track map for launch...   May 31 2008, 04:23 PM
|- - karolp   QUOTE (ugordan @ May 31 2008, 06:23 PM) W...   May 31 2008, 05:12 PM
|- - ugordan   Thanks, karolp. I use Heavens Above for ISS flyove...   May 31 2008, 05:19 PM
|- - karolp   The orbit of Discovery is going to be very similar...   May 31 2008, 05:45 PM
|- - ugordan   Yes, but while ISS orbit is fixed in inertial spac...   May 31 2008, 06:06 PM
- - jmjawors   This is not entirely what you were asking for, but...   May 31 2008, 06:17 PM
- - Zvezdichko   Hmm... how are they going to relocate the logistic...   May 31 2008, 06:26 PM
|- - jmjawors   QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ May 31 2008, 01:26 PM...   May 31 2008, 06:46 PM
- - Marcel   I have been searching the web for typical trajecto...   May 31 2008, 06:29 PM
- - Zvezdichko   Thank you. I suppose thy will just attach the arm ...   May 31 2008, 06:56 PM
- - Stu   WOW!!!!!!!!! J...   May 31 2008, 09:27 PM
- - jmjawors   Successful launch!   May 31 2008, 09:27 PM
|- - mars loon   beautiful launch a small piece of foam did strike...   May 31 2008, 09:36 PM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (mars loon @ May 31 2008, 04:36 PM)...   May 31 2008, 09:58 PM
|- - mars loon   At a NASA press conference on going at this momen...   May 31 2008, 10:21 PM
- - Zvezdichko   I saw a lot of debris falling away. Hope nothing s...   May 31 2008, 09:32 PM
- - jmjawors   TPS inspections are complete for today. They...   Jun 1 2008, 05:21 PM
- - Stu   For those who missed Saturday's Discovery/ET f...   Jun 2 2008, 04:10 PM
- - Stu   Discovery approaching ISS right now... gorgeous pi...   Jun 2 2008, 04:52 PM
- - alan   I notice the solar panels are still aligned differ...   Jun 2 2008, 05:06 PM
|- - jmjawors   QUOTE (alan @ Jun 2 2008, 12:06 PM) I not...   Jun 2 2008, 05:38 PM
- - jmjawors   Discovery is within 150 feet of docking. They are...   Jun 2 2008, 05:47 PM
- - jmjawors   Discovery has successfully docked to the ISS.   Jun 2 2008, 06:05 PM
- - jmjawors   And now with hatch opening the crews can finally c...   Jun 2 2008, 07:42 PM
- - jmjawors   Today is the mission's first EVA. Tasks on ha...   Jun 3 2008, 02:32 PM
- - kspace   Has anyone else seen this article? http://www.spa...   Jun 3 2008, 04:22 PM
|- - jmjawors   They're trying to figure it out as we speak. ...   Jun 3 2008, 04:26 PM
- - jmjawors   EVA #1 has begun, just shy of one hour late. This...   Jun 3 2008, 04:28 PM
- - kspace   Here is another article on that damage httpwww.sp...   Jun 3 2008, 05:14 PM
- - dvandorn   I have no idea if this contributed to the pad dama...   Jun 3 2008, 07:21 PM
|- - ugordan   It didn't look that much slower to me. The Sat...   Jun 3 2008, 07:39 PM
|- - lyford   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jun 3 2008, 11:39 AM) Th...   Jun 4 2008, 01:10 AM
- - nprev   I agree. Aging infrastructure problems rear their ...   Jun 3 2008, 08:53 PM
- - BPCooper   The difference between a 32,000 lbs module or even...   Jun 3 2008, 10:10 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (BPCooper @ Jun 3 2008, 05:10 PM) T...   Jun 4 2008, 05:11 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 4 2008, 07:11 PM) A...   Jun 4 2008, 05:27 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jun 4 2008, 12:27 PM) I...   Jun 4 2008, 06:05 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 4 2008, 08:05 PM) C...   Jun 4 2008, 06:41 PM
- - Stu   NASA TV currently showing some very cool footage o...   Jun 4 2008, 05:28 AM
- - jmjawors   That was from the 'flight day highlights' ...   Jun 4 2008, 01:41 PM
- - ilbasso   OK, I have to say something about Karen Nyberg...   Jun 4 2008, 01:47 PM
- - lyford   Well, no one beats Sunita for long locks.... Woul...   Jun 4 2008, 02:54 PM
- - jmjawors   Installation of the air pump into the station toil...   Jun 4 2008, 03:59 PM
|- - MahFL   QUOTE (jmjawors @ Jun 4 2008, 04:59 PM) I...   Jun 4 2008, 04:55 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (jmjawors @ Jun 4 2008, 10:59 AM) I...   Jun 4 2008, 05:13 PM
|- - jmjawors   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 4 2008, 12:13 PM) G...   Jun 4 2008, 05:47 PM
|- - Thu   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 5 2008, 12:13 AM) G...   Jun 5 2008, 02:48 AM
- - djellison   You may jest - but there was a great 'home mov...   Jun 4 2008, 06:21 PM
- - climber   What did Reisman said after ringing the bell? ??? ...   Jun 4 2008, 08:04 PM
|- - jmjawors   QUOTE (climber @ Jun 4 2008, 03:04 PM) Wh...   Jun 4 2008, 08:04 PM
|- - climber   QUOTE (jmjawors @ Jun 4 2008, 10:04 PM) D...   Jun 4 2008, 08:45 PM
- - jmjawors   Oooh... sorry. I didn't pick up on that. ...   Jun 4 2008, 08:52 PM
|- - climber   QUOTE (jmjawors @ Jun 4 2008, 10:52 PM) A...   Jun 4 2008, 08:57 PM
- - jmjawors   "The JPM is open!"   Jun 4 2008, 09:03 PM
- - dvandorn   Yeah, they said it's open, but the hatch is st...   Jun 4 2008, 09:05 PM
- - jmjawors   View from a camera on the opposite end of the JPM,...   Jun 4 2008, 09:08 PM
- - jmjawors   Full ingress has occurred.   Jun 4 2008, 09:14 PM
- - stevesliva   Wow, when do they fill all of that empty rackspace...   Jun 4 2008, 10:12 PM
|- - jmjawors   QUOTE (stevesliva @ Jun 4 2008, 05:12 PM)...   Jun 4 2008, 10:48 PM
- - jmjawors   Speak of the devil... Racks being moved into Kibo...   Jun 4 2008, 10:53 PM
- - stevesliva   I went googling, and there is some good info on Ki...   Jun 5 2008, 01:50 AM
- - jmjawors   A weightless aquarium? That would be interesting.   Jun 5 2008, 02:00 AM
- - jmjawors   Just got a little more info on the racks. Four we...   Jun 5 2008, 03:38 AM
- - djellison   The ATV can't do racks - because it docks to t...   Jun 5 2008, 06:35 AM
|- - jmjawors   QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 5 2008, 01:35 AM) ...   Jun 5 2008, 03:01 PM
|- - jmjawors   EVA #2 concluded after about 7 hours and 11 minute...   Jun 6 2008, 12:50 AM
- - elakdawalla   Doug, what the heck are you doing up? Oh. Right....   Jun 5 2008, 06:47 AM
- - jmjawors   Buzz Lightyear makes his appearance on the flight ...   Jun 6 2008, 02:32 AM
|- - David   QUOTE (jmjawors @ Jun 6 2008, 02:32 AM) B...   Jun 6 2008, 12:24 PM
- - jmjawors   Looks like Buzz is a station crew member. [LINK]   Jun 6 2008, 03:27 PM
- - nprev   ...gotta admit, that's just cute as hell!...   Jun 6 2008, 03:35 PM
- - jmjawors   The JLM has been relocated from the zenith port of...   Jun 6 2008, 08:11 PM
- - jmjawors   Video: Buzz vs. Buzz   Jun 8 2008, 02:37 PM
- - jmjawors   The docked mission of Discovery and ISS has come t...   Jun 10 2008, 08:13 PM
- - jmjawors   Discovery successfully undocked from the ISS this ...   Jun 11 2008, 02:37 PM
- - djellison   As a European, I feel a bid inadequate looking at ...   Jun 11 2008, 03:05 PM
- - jmjawors   Don't forget about the Jules Verne, docked to ...   Jun 11 2008, 03:07 PM
- - ilbasso   You don't like to see pieces of your spacecraf...   Jun 13 2008, 02:13 PM
- - kspace   Based on preliminary examination of photos taken t...   Jun 13 2008, 03:15 PM
- - jmjawors   The initial assessment is that it's a thermal ...   Jun 13 2008, 03:21 PM
- - Toma B   Finally!!! These "fly around...   Jun 13 2008, 09:16 PM
|- - Shaka   QUOTE (Toma B @ Jun 13 2008, 11:16 AM) ht...   Jun 13 2008, 11:19 PM
||- - ugordan   Far too large to be a plane. Looks like a reflecti...   Jun 13 2008, 11:21 PM
|- - Stu   QUOTE (Toma B @ Jun 13 2008, 10:16 PM) Be...   Jun 14 2008, 06:54 AM
- - Shaka   I was thinking of a pair of fighters in loose form...   Jun 14 2008, 01:18 AM
- - jmjawors   There are window reflections in a lot of photos fr...   Jun 14 2008, 01:30 AM
- - nprev   Down and safe, an entirely unremarkable landing......   Jun 14 2008, 03:18 PM
- - jmjawors   Agreed. A great two weeks for Discovery and the I...   Jun 14 2008, 03:24 PM
- - jmjawors   A parting shot of Discovery as she is towed back t...   Jun 14 2008, 07:37 PM

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