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Second Try at South Pole, Sending Another Phoenix
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post Jul 22 2008, 02:47 PM
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Now that Phoenix successfully landed at the northern plains, how about sending a spacecraft just like it to the sourthern plains? We know the design works and could get the science we never got from MPL in 1999.
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post Jul 22 2008, 03:00 PM
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Oh - I'm sure it would - but having explored 'a' pole, attention (given the limited budget) should move elsewhere, and to taking the Phoenix results and extrapolating via orbital data.
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post Jul 23 2008, 02:39 AM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 22 2008, 10:00 AM) *
Oh - I'm sure it would - but having explored 'a' pole, attention (given the limited budget) should move elsewhere, and to taking the Phoenix results and extrapolating via orbital data.


Doug.. sir, .... with all due respect, there are vast differences between the two poles. Look at the spiders and swiss cheese terrain.

I think the biggest problem with sending a south pole mission right now is we do not even know the right questions to seek answers to. We simply have NO experience with CO2 effects on minerals, etc., over geologic time scales. H2O we understand.... but not CO2, which is Mars other volatile.

I think we are all too earthcentric.

And landing at the south polar terrains means higher elevations and less air to slow us down... much more difficult I think than at the Phoenix latitude.

But I would truly love to trudge that southern terrain.... what a wonder that would be.

Craig




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post Jul 24 2008, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE (belleraphon1 @ Jul 23 2008, 03:39 AM) *
Doug.. sir, .... with all due respect, there are vast differences between the two poles.


I dont doubt that for one second. But there isn't a Phoenix 2.0 ready to fly, there isn't cash to make one, and the science beacon in the form of H from the GRS is now 'covered' with Phoenix.

I'd love to land everywhere - but when you have one - just ONE lander left on the schedule, the south pole isn't the place, and I don't think it will be for some time to come.

Doug
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- pioneer   Second Try at South Pole   Jul 22 2008, 02:47 PM
- - djellison   Phoenix is getting the science we never got from M...   Jul 22 2008, 02:48 PM
- - pioneer   Thanks for the quick reply! I just thought co...   Jul 22 2008, 02:50 PM
- - djellison   Oh - I'm sure it would - but having explored ...   Jul 22 2008, 03:00 PM
|- - tedstryk   Phoenix is also already an old spacecraft, and use...   Jul 22 2008, 03:14 PM
||- - Juramike   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jul 22 2008, 10:14 AM) ...   Jul 22 2008, 05:15 PM
||- - Ken90000   Doesn't the current MSL have a scoop and analy...   Jul 22 2008, 06:41 PM
|- - belleraphon1   QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 22 2008, 10:00 AM)...   Jul 23 2008, 02:39 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (belleraphon1 @ Jul 23 2008, 03:39 ...   Jul 24 2008, 07:50 AM
|- - belleraphon1   -quote deleted. Mod. I agree....with one lander t...   Jul 24 2008, 09:39 PM
- - dvandorn   Also, your polar MSL would have to be able to trav...   Jul 22 2008, 08:26 PM
|- - DDAVIS   Seems a waste of an RTG-powered rover to land it s...   Jul 22 2008, 10:23 PM
- - nprev   I'm gonna say not much, Don. The heat of an RT...   Jul 22 2008, 11:21 PM
|- - DDAVIS   On a side note, V2 probably got at least hip-deep ...   Jul 23 2008, 12:23 AM
- - nprev   It's been a LONG time, but IIRC the Viking pro...   Jul 23 2008, 12:42 AM
- - climber   Do you mean that this place could be the most alie...   Jul 23 2008, 07:40 AM
|- - belleraphon1   QUOTE (climber @ Jul 23 2008, 02:40 AM) D...   Jul 23 2008, 11:20 PM
- - dvandorn   However, in discussion of Martian carbonates, I wi...   Jul 24 2008, 02:17 AM
- - nprev   It would be nice to see some new Discovery-class l...   Jul 25 2008, 12:10 AM


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