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Dec 14 2004, 08:34 PM
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http://www.msss.com/press_releases/mslselection/index.html
Some astonishing proposals there - full colour motion descent imagery Not sure what use 10fps video is - as even MSL will still crawl along at a slow pace making it very boring viewing Doug |
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May 3 2005, 04:46 PM
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In the case of a rock or a 'ripple' etc., you can make a case that the closer you view it the more you can see. From Navcam to Pancam to MI we see more and more on these targets. But is this true for a dust devil? Up to a point, certainly - it's better to see it from 500 m than 5 km. Recently we have had these 'movies' in which a fair bit of structure is visible.
But I would suggest there's no advantage to getting much closer than that. A big diffuse object is seen better from a distance than close up. So I think a strategy of viewing across a wide area from a good vantage point - e.g. looking west from Larry's Lookout - is the best way to view dust devils. You may see a bit of structure in the nearer ones - though that doesn't teach you much... but you get good stats on occurrence, direction, height, optical depth and so on. Waiting until a rover experiences a wind/pressure signature and then taking images is the worst way to study them. (IMHO) Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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May 3 2005, 06:49 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, didn't Pathfinder actually detect a dust devil pass nearly over it? I remember reading a report of the event -- the wind direction changed through 360 degrees over less than a minute and the pressure shifted at all three spots along the mast where the meteorological pressure sensors were located, consistent with a dust devil passing.
IIRC, there were no visible changes in Pathfinder's area after its devil passed -- perhaps it passed overhead (i.e., a funnel that lifted off the ground and passed over Pathfinder itself)? So it's possible that instruments to detect a dust devil passing directly overhead might still not manage to let a probe capture images of it. I think the only really effective way of capturing images of the little devils is a synoptic survey. But, hey -- any rover worth its salt can do that while performing other tasks, right? Like while doing a long Mossbauer or APXS integration? -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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djellison Cameras For Msl Dec 14 2004, 08:34 PM
dot.dk Nice to see video from MARS!
Can't wai... Dec 14 2004, 09:11 PM
tedstryk With the Mars Telcom orbiter in limbo or dead, how... Dec 14 2004, 10:14 PM
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Sunspot A little more information on some of the other pro... Dec 15 2004, 01:30 AM
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YesRushGen QUOTE (dot.dk @ Dec 14 2004, 09:11 PM)...NASA... Dec 15 2004, 01:37 PM
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djellison Good point Alex - when I read his post i thought h... Dec 21 2004, 06:16 PM
Sunspot MTO gets a brief mention on the JPL future mission... Dec 21 2004, 06:34 PM
djellison http://acquisition.jpl.nasa.gov/rfp/mtodesignstudi... Dec 21 2004, 08:36 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Sunspot @ Dec 21 2004, 06:34 PM)MTO ge... Dec 21 2004, 09:30 PM
djellison It's an interesting challenge. 5W and 5KG - bu... Dec 21 2004, 10:25 PM
BruceMoomaw Actually, there's one extremely detailed Web d... Dec 28 2004, 09:49 AM
DEChengst QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 15 2004, 08:11 AM)Well... Dec 30 2004, 10:55 AM
DEChengst QUOTE (YesRushGen @ Dec 15 2004, 01:37 PM)Tha... Dec 30 2004, 11:04 AM
BruceMoomaw There are, however, good reasons to think that a s... Dec 31 2004, 03:38 AM
AlexBlackwell MSSS is providing more technical information on th... Jan 2 2005, 05:46 PM
DEChengst The MastCam is going to be incredible. The PanCam ... Jan 2 2005, 06:30 PM
djellison Well - we'll all have new computers by then an... Jan 2 2005, 06:34 PM
DEChengst QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 2 2005, 06:34 PM)Well ... Jan 2 2005, 06:48 PM
DEChengst They should make the HDTV recording automatic. Hav... Jan 6 2005, 08:04 PM
tedstryk Except that by the time the dust devil had been id... Jan 6 2005, 08:12 PM
DEChengst QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jan 6 2005, 08:12 PM)Except... Jan 6 2005, 08:16 PM
slinted I'm particularily interested in the MastCam us... Jan 7 2005, 08:50 PM
tedstryk It seems quite difficult to imagine a rover pickin... Jan 7 2005, 09:07 PM
Mark Rejhon QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jan 7 2005, 05:07 PM)It see... Apr 18 2005, 05:40 AM
Mark Rejhon JPL succeeded in a crude form of motion-sensing on... Apr 23 2005, 08:07 PM
DEChengst QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jan 7 2005, 09:07 PM)It see... Jan 9 2005, 05:19 PM
Bob Shaw On the identifying dust devils front, perhaps opti... Apr 23 2005, 09:24 PM
tedstryk So did Viking, though unlike Pathfinder it never p... May 3 2005, 02:00 PM
DEChengst Shortly after the announcment was made that MSSS w... Feb 21 2005, 06:31 PM
jamescanvin QUOTE (Sunspot @ Dec 15 2004, 01:30 AM)-- ... Feb 28 2005, 06:28 AM
centsworth_II "could this flashy colour video be used on th... Feb 28 2005, 07:32 AM
djellison The descent camera will make a movie - and the mas... Feb 28 2005, 09:10 AM
MiniTES QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Feb 28 2005, 07:32 AM)... Feb 28 2005, 11:50 PM
lyford Does anyone know the proposed height for the mast ... Mar 25 2005, 04:01 AM
lyford Well, I found this here.
Looks like the mast is n... Mar 25 2005, 05:40 PM
erwan Seems Batman will be on board?! Mar 25 2005, 07:15 PM

lyford QUOTE (erwan @ Mar 25 2005, 11:15 AM)Seems Ba... Mar 25 2005, 07:50 PM
cIclops QUOTE (lyford @ Mar 25 2005, 05:40 PM)Looks l... Mar 25 2005, 08:34 PM
deglr6328 QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Apr 23 2005, 09:24 PM)On th... Apr 23 2005, 09:49 PM
djellison Once you measure a pressure drop - the devil is ... May 3 2005, 02:26 PM
Mark Rejhon Spirit just captured a spetacular series of dust d... May 7 2005, 02:39 AM
dilo OK, I'm a little bit disappointed why NASA did... May 15 2005, 11:08 PM![]() ![]() |
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