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Solar Eclipse - Friday August 1st 2008
Stu
post Jul 30 2008, 08:27 PM
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People in China will be able to see a total solar eclipse on Friday. Here in the UK we'll see a partial solar eclipse - not a very dramatic one, but still worth watching. Full details here...

Note: these times are for my home in Kendal, Cumbria, but wherever you live in the UK your times won't be drastically different, and a quick Googlehunt will help you track down accurate times... board members in certain other countries will be able to see the eclipse too, but I don't have specific visibility details. Again, just Google it.

This is just a "heads up" to make sure you all put it in your diaries... smile.gif


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post Aug 7 2008, 05:02 PM
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All right, I have a question. I'm sitting in a staff meeting at the Society and Lou is talking about his trip to China to see the eclipse. He said that totality lasted only 94 seconds. He then said that next year's eclipse tour will see a much longer eclipse with totality lasting 7 or 8 minutes. So I asked, how does it work that eclipses are sometimes so short and sometimes much longer? Small changes I can understand but that's a pretty huge range. There was discussion about the kinds of things that could influence the duration of totality -- latitude, distance of the Moon from Earth, etc -- but nothing that coherently answered my question. Can any of you help me out?

--Emily


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post Aug 8 2008, 03:53 AM
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QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Aug 7 2008, 01:02 PM) *
All right, I have a question. I'm sitting in a staff meeting at the Society and Lou is talking about his trip to China to see the eclipse. He said that totality lasted only 94 seconds. He then said that next year's eclipse tour will see a much longer eclipse with totality lasting 7 or 8 minutes. So I asked, how does it work that eclipses are sometimes so short and sometimes much longer? Small changes I can understand but that's a pretty huge range. There was discussion about the kinds of things that could influence the duration of totality -- latitude, distance of the Moon from Earth, etc -- but nothing that coherently answered my question. Can any of you help me out?

--Emily


I think I can explain the main idea behind it...

The main factor is the distance between the Earth and moon, and the Earth and sun. If the eclipse occurs when the Earth and moon are closest and at the same time, the sun and Earth farthest apart during their orbits, the eclipse will last the longest as the moon is as large as it can be relative to the sun in that scenario. The maximum theoretical limit for a total solar eclipse is 7 min 31 sec.

By contrast, if the moon is at apogee and the Earth at perigee, the sun will be as far larger than the moon as it can be, creating the other extreme, a maximum duration annular eclipse.

Another factor in this situation is whether they slide passed each other exactly so that their radial centers cross, or if they slide passed each other slightly off axis. This can affect the time as well (just like a lunar eclipse, which is more easily seen... hitting the bullseye produces the longest).

On top of that, I believe your location on Earth an eclipse crosses can also have an effect.

The 2009 eclipse is the longest of the 21st century and will be 6 mins, 38.9 seconds long at the maximum point which is SE of Japan.

The other factor is that each eclipse varies in length along its track, with maximum duration in the middle. At the ends of the track, which occur where the Earth's surface is curving away from the shadow cone, the eclipse occurs at local sunrise or sunset and is shortest in duration because the shadow sweeps along the surface faster here (look at a spherical projection animation). The longest duration last week was 2 m 27 s, in northern Russia. Where I was, in southern Russia, it was 2 m 18 s. In China, less than 2 mins.

I hope this helps and that I didn't leave anything significant out.

In the meantime I have posted more photos and sequences:
http://www.launchphotography.com/Total_Sol...lipse_2008.html


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- Stu   Solar Eclipse - Friday August 1st 2008   Jul 30 2008, 08:27 PM
- - nprev   BTW, if anybody here has never seen a total eclips...   Jul 30 2008, 11:33 PM
- - jamescanvin   And for those of us that can't get to the path...   Jul 31 2008, 07:36 AM
- - jamescanvin   And here is NASA's technical document on the e...   Jul 31 2008, 07:50 AM
- - Tman   Great! Looks like it's a team from the Exp...   Jul 31 2008, 12:00 PM
- - djellison   1015 local for the maximum for me in Leicester. G...   Jul 31 2008, 01:05 PM
- - Sunspot   Lots of cloud about... fortunately it's made t...   Aug 1 2008, 10:06 AM
- - djellison   Same view here - taken with a Sony DCR-VX2100e cam...   Aug 1 2008, 10:34 AM
- - nprev   Must be fairly dense clouds, or are you guys using...   Aug 1 2008, 10:52 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (nprev @ Aug 1 2008, 11:52 AM) or a...   Aug 1 2008, 11:00 AM
- - Sunspot   And a nice close up around the time of maximum ecl...   Aug 1 2008, 10:54 AM
- - Stu   Great view of the eclipse from here in Kendal, and...   Aug 1 2008, 11:03 AM
- - nprev   Way cool, Stu! 40 people, huh? Wow, great turn...   Aug 1 2008, 11:07 AM
- - djellison   4 frame anim from Eumetsat - Met 9. It's in t...   Aug 1 2008, 11:24 AM
- - Sunspot   And almost finished   Aug 1 2008, 11:24 AM
- - djellison   And seen by Modis on Terra at 0935 to 0945UT ( thr...   Aug 1 2008, 11:28 AM
- - Tman   Huh, with that clouds it was a close thing in Chin...   Aug 1 2008, 11:35 AM
- - Stu   Funniest/most unbelievable part of the morning... ...   Aug 1 2008, 01:27 PM
- - nprev   Yet more evidence that the word "obvious...   Aug 1 2008, 01:33 PM
- - jamescanvin   A collection of stills from NASA TV http://www.na...   Aug 1 2008, 01:48 PM
- - ilbasso   CNN website has a video that someone shot from Sib...   Aug 1 2008, 02:09 PM
- - Bernard   It was nice in Paris   Aug 1 2008, 02:17 PM
- - Stu   Eclipse report from Kendal updated with a couple o...   Aug 1 2008, 02:51 PM
- - nprev   Well done! Looks like a great time was had by ...   Aug 1 2008, 03:30 PM
- - ngunn   I can confirm that the view from Altay, Xinjiang, ...   Aug 6 2008, 10:34 AM
|- - BPCooper   I traveled to Siberia for the eclipse. I have uplo...   Aug 6 2008, 10:56 AM
|- - Stu   QUOTE (ngunn @ Aug 6 2008, 11:34 AM) Anyt...   Aug 6 2008, 11:10 AM
- - Tman   Very nice Ben! Have seen your pics already on ...   Aug 6 2008, 11:42 AM
- - elakdawalla   All right, I have a question. I'm sitting in ...   Aug 7 2008, 05:02 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   Well in really, really simple terms, think of it t...   Aug 7 2008, 05:37 PM
|- - BPCooper   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Aug 7 2008, 01:02 PM...   Aug 8 2008, 03:53 AM
- - nprev   That's the heart of it, Dan. An impotant subfa...   Aug 8 2008, 12:18 AM
- - elakdawalla   Thanks for your help, guys. Ben: You just wrote a...   Aug 9 2008, 05:08 AM
- - scalbers   As kind of a second order consideration, it's ...   Aug 9 2008, 04:41 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (scalbers @ Aug 9 2008, 06:41 PM) H...   Aug 9 2008, 05:14 PM
|- - BPCooper   QUOTE (scalbers @ Aug 9 2008, 12:41 PM) I...   Aug 9 2008, 08:54 PM
- - scalbers   Ben - hybrid eclipses are fascinating and in these...   Aug 9 2008, 09:16 PM


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