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Jul 30 2008, 07:45 PM
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Liquid Lakes confirmed on Titan!
Latest issue of Nature provides evidence that Ontario Lacus at Titan's South pole is definitely liquid. Space.com article: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080730-titan-lake.html -Mike -------------------- Some higher resolution images available at my photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31678681@N07/
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Oct 31 2008, 10:51 AM
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OK here goes. Using polarisation of reflected skylight to study Titan's lakes is of course up against the ever-present problem of scattering by the atmospheric haze. This gets worse at oblique angles, so first I ask:
Q1 - What is our best estimate for the Brewster angle for Titan's lakes at VIMS and ISS wavelengths? Whatever the optimum viewing angle it's certain that only a small fraction of the photons reflected by a lake make it out through the haze unscattered. Hence it is necessary to ask also: Q2 - how much does forward scattering by the haze mess with the plane of polarisation? (Rather a lot would be my guess.) And: Q3 - Is the small fraction of unscattered photons sufficient to yield observable contrast between lake images taken with different polarising filters? (My guess again: slight but maybe just observable. Certainly not like the college pond pictures!) If the answers to all three questions leave any grounds for optimism then the potential prize could be great: processed images of lakes (or at least shiny areas) produced selectively from unscattered photons. This could potentially increase the resolution of shoreline features well beyond what the infrared instruments (ISS especially) are able to achieve at Titan by other means. Q4 - Does any of this make sense? |
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Juramike VIMS detection of ethane in Ontario Lacus Jul 30 2008, 07:45 PM
Juramike Brown et al. Nature 454 (2008), 607-610. "Th... Jul 30 2008, 08:48 PM
Webscientist A large dark patch at the end of the summer season... Jul 30 2008, 09:13 PM
volcanopele QUOTE (Webscientist @ Jul 30 2008, 02:13 ... Jul 30 2008, 09:48 PM
Jason W Barnes I just wanted to call attention to the newly-relea... Jul 31 2008, 08:11 PM
stevesliva It has been mentioned elsewhere (and there is a g... Jul 31 2008, 08:47 PM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (stevesliva @ Jul 31 2008, 01:47 PM... Jul 31 2008, 09:06 PM
volcanopele Thanks for the post. This announcement illustrate... Jul 31 2008, 09:09 PM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jul 31 2008, 02:09 P... Jul 31 2008, 09:57 PM
volcanopele This should have its own thread anyway. Juramike... Jul 31 2008, 09:12 PM
belleraphon1 Thanks Jason for that link to the Nature paper....... Aug 1 2008, 01:28 AM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (belleraphon1 @ Jul 31 2008, 06:28 ... Aug 1 2008, 02:14 AM
rlorenz QUOTE (Jason W Barnes @ Jul 31 2008, 10:1... Aug 2 2008, 08:49 AM
Juramike "Hey, you got SAR RADAR data in my VIMS?... Aug 2 2008, 12:58 PM

Littlebit QUOTE (Juramike @ Aug 2 2008, 06:58 AM) ... Aug 2 2008, 07:24 PM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (rlorenz @ Aug 2 2008, 01:49 AM) Or... Aug 2 2008, 07:05 PM
belleraphon1 Jason..
Thanks for the clarification regarding t... Aug 1 2008, 11:09 AM
TheChemist I would not waste a 2D 1H/13C HETCOR for the liqui... Aug 2 2008, 01:30 PM
Juramike I think it's be nifty if someone could find a ... Aug 2 2008, 10:58 PM
nprev ...don't DO that, Mike, I'm dyin'... Aug 2 2008, 11:39 PM
dvandorn Ah, yes -- reminds me of the famous horce race cal... Aug 3 2008, 01:23 AM
djellison QUOTE (dvandorn @ Aug 3 2008, 02:23 AM) t... Aug 3 2008, 01:33 AM

dvandorn QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 2 2008, 08:33 PM) ... Aug 3 2008, 01:55 AM

nprev QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 2 2008, 06:33 PM) ... Aug 3 2008, 01:58 PM

rlorenz QUOTE (nprev @ Aug 3 2008, 09:58 AM) Fran... Aug 4 2008, 05:06 PM
rlorenz QUOTE (dvandorn @ Aug 2 2008, 09:23 PM) S... Aug 3 2008, 09:31 AM
TheChemist What needs to be clarified is that everything made... Aug 3 2008, 11:01 AM
remcook I'm often confused by the definition of 't... Aug 3 2008, 01:37 PM
volcanopele Yeah, you would need air pressure in environments ... Aug 4 2008, 05:40 PM
Juramike QUOTE (volcanopele @ Aug 4 2008, 12:40 PM... Aug 5 2008, 02:06 AM
Sunspot Did someone say there would be a radar "image... Aug 5 2008, 08:40 AM
rlorenz QUOTE (Sunspot @ Aug 5 2008, 03:40 AM) Di... Aug 5 2008, 05:29 PM
Sunspot QUOTE (rlorenz @ Aug 5 2008, 06:29 PM) No... Aug 5 2008, 05:46 PM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (Sunspot @ Aug 5 2008, 10:46 AM) No... Aug 5 2008, 05:52 PM
rlorenz QUOTE (Jason W Barnes @ Aug 5 2008, 01:52... Aug 9 2008, 12:33 PM
Enceladus75 OK so I will admit that I am a complete ingenue in... Oct 25 2008, 04:39 AM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE ('Enceladus75' date='Oct 24 2008... Oct 31 2008, 04:04 AM
ngunn Hi Jason. The DPS presentations seem to be still a... Oct 31 2008, 09:51 AM
HughFromAlice [quote name='ngunn' date='Oct 31 2008,... Nov 8 2008, 10:40 AM
ngunn QUOTE (HughFromAlice @ Nov 8 2008, 10:40 ... Nov 10 2008, 08:51 AM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (ngunn @ Oct 31 2008, 03:51 AM) OK ... Oct 31 2008, 07:37 PM
ngunn QUOTE (Jason W Barnes @ Oct 31 2008, 07:3... Oct 31 2008, 08:48 PM
volcanopele It does, but we haven't used it to the best of... Oct 31 2008, 10:02 PM
ngunn Great - keep us posted if it's going to be tri... Nov 1 2008, 04:01 PM
Vultur So if there's ethane, and probably methane, in... Nov 3 2008, 12:32 AM
Juramike QUOTE (Vultur @ Nov 2 2008, 08:32 PM) So ... Nov 3 2008, 01:02 AM![]() ![]() |
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