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Jul 31 2008, 10:22 PM
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![]() The Poet Dude ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Seriously, hasn't anyone else got any thoughts (dismissive or otherwise) on the "Have you briefed the President's Science Advisor?" (re MECA) question by C Covault? I am NOT going all woo-woo here, don't worry, I just thought it was an odd thing to ask... To my ears it sounded like C C was suggesting, subtly, to the panel that he had heard "something" about the MECA analysis and wanted them to comment. The question was brushed aside - rather uncomfortably I thought - and the discussion quickly moved on, but it seemed like a bit of a Moment to me. He actually began, if I remember correctly, by asking where the "MECA guys" were, asking if they had "been hidden under the table"... cue uncomfortable laughs from the panel...
Again, I have to stress, in case anyone thinks I'm 'suggesting' anything, I'm not getting all Muldur here, I was just struck by how out of the blue the question was, and wondered if anyone has any thoughts on it... -------------------- |
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Aug 3 2008, 01:49 AM
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I dunno... a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, I got a journalism degree in college, and actually worked in newspapers for a couple of years (until I discovered I could make *tons* more money in technical writing).
I have something of a clue of how these things work. And I'd bet y'all any money the sequence went something like this: Craig Covault is sitting around his office and gets a call from a friend who monitors the White House beat (likely for some other news organization). Let's face it, Covault isn't a White House correspondent. Covault's friend says, "Hey, I just got word that your Mars lander guys came and gave a special presentation to the President. What the <bleep> is happening over on your side of the street, Craig?" Covault guardedly replies, "Nothing they've told *me*." Whereupon friend correspondent says, "Well, they have to have *something* hot, or they wouldn't be briefing the White House." Now, if you're Craig Covault at that moment, maybe having nursed some private concerns over the very, very little information that has been released from the first TEGA run and from the WCL runs, just how are you going to feel? Maybe just a little, well... blindsided? I can't blame the man for reacting the way he did. If the above scenario is correct, Covault got his skinny from a political reporter, while his own contacts in the Phoenix team and in the space industry in general had not only not given him any hints of this, it might just feel to him like his contacts have been deliberately withholding information from him. (Please note, I am *not* particularly suggesting that is the case, or that it would be un-called-for even if true -- I'm only suggesting that this scenario may have made Covault *feel* like that.) If it were me, and especially if private questions along the same lines had been stonewalled, then heck, yes, I'll ask the question at a press conference. If I'm feeling like my contacts don't respect me, then I'm more motivated to remind them that respect is a two-way street. Again, speaking from the point of view of someone who has worked the reporter's side of the street, and knows a little bit about the somewhat lunatic dynamic between a beat reporter and his/her contacts. -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Stu The MECA story Jul 31 2008, 10:22 PM
elakdawalla I've heard some very vague rumor to the effect... Jul 31 2008, 10:31 PM
dmg A) My take on Craig Covault's question about M... Jul 31 2008, 10:34 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (Stu @ Jul 31 2008, 02:22 PM) He ac... Jul 31 2008, 10:36 PM
Stu QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jul 31 2008, 11:36 P... Jul 31 2008, 10:40 PM
mars loon QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jul 31 2008, 10:36 P... Aug 1 2008, 12:15 AM
Stu Thanks Emily, that's very interesting. I can... Jul 31 2008, 10:39 PM
Sunspot Presidential advisor's eh??? All very mysterio... Jul 31 2008, 11:16 PM
jmjawors Alright... stupid question time. What difficultie... Jul 31 2008, 11:31 PM
belleraphon1 Agree the MECA team has not had serious problems. ... Aug 1 2008, 01:37 AM
1101001 I put a notice of this in the MECA topic, but Cova... Aug 1 2008, 08:34 PM
Stu Thanks 01 (is it ok if I call you "01"? ... Aug 1 2008, 09:26 PM
TheChemist Hmm, the plot thickens...
Did they found indicati... Aug 1 2008, 09:33 PM
nprev Can I call you by your decimal equivalent, "1... Aug 1 2008, 09:35 PM
ilbasso QUOTE (nprev @ Aug 1 2008, 05:35 PM) Can ... Aug 2 2008, 02:19 AM
Aussie QUOTE (ilbasso @ Aug 2 2008, 03:19 AM) Hi... Aug 2 2008, 02:43 AM
Paul Fjeld Covault is a real professional who has earned some... Aug 2 2008, 03:32 AM
djellison QUOTE (Paul Fjeld @ Aug 2 2008, 04:32 AM)... Aug 2 2008, 08:34 AM
nprev Fred, to answer your question...no, it's not c... Aug 1 2008, 09:57 PM
djellison Lots of speculative posts in various threads. A ... Aug 1 2008, 10:42 PM
Oersted WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!
Oops,... Aug 1 2008, 11:23 PM
nprev Well, as I just mentioned to a noted forum member,... Aug 1 2008, 11:34 PM
PDP8E my best guess
** methane **
the natural output... Aug 1 2008, 11:37 PM
jmknapp Here's an MP3 clip of Craig Covault's ques... Aug 1 2008, 11:44 PM
1101001 QUOTE (jmknapp @ Aug 1 2008, 04:44 PM) Do... Aug 2 2008, 12:43 AM
nprev I would be extremely cautious about reading more i... Aug 2 2008, 01:00 AM
1101001 QUOTE (nprev @ Aug 1 2008, 06:00 PM) Bott... Aug 2 2008, 01:17 AM
nprev QUOTE (1101001 @ Aug 1 2008, 06:17 PM) Ma... Aug 2 2008, 01:28 AM
Stu QUOTE (nprev @ Aug 2 2008, 02:28 AM) This... Aug 2 2008, 05:57 AM
vjkane Check out http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.ht... Aug 2 2008, 02:35 AM
nprev Mmm...seems like a pretty good analysis from here,... Aug 2 2008, 03:46 AM
Paul Fjeld QUOTE (nprev @ Aug 1 2008, 11:46 PM) Didn... Aug 2 2008, 04:14 AM
nprev QUOTE (Paul Fjeld @ Aug 1 2008, 09:14 PM)... Aug 2 2008, 04:26 AM
Pavel I guess it's a nitrogen compound. Ammonia per... Aug 2 2008, 03:56 AM
nprev That sure sounds like a good guess, Pavel. AFAIK, ... Aug 2 2008, 04:11 AM
Reed QUOTE (Pavel @ Aug 1 2008, 08:56 PM) I gu... Aug 2 2008, 07:02 AM
bcory maybe they found an amino acid..
Or just an amine... Aug 2 2008, 04:20 AM
Paul Fjeld One other point re: the press conference. Personal... Aug 2 2008, 04:41 AM
djellison QUOTE (Paul Fjeld @ Aug 2 2008, 05:41 AM)... Aug 2 2008, 08:26 AM

Paul Fjeld QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 2 2008, 03:26 AM) ... Aug 2 2008, 03:02 PM

Paul Fjeld QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 2 2008, 03:26 AM) ... Aug 2 2008, 03:16 PM

fredk QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 2 2008, 09:26 AM) ... Aug 2 2008, 03:53 PM
jmknapp QUOTE (Paul Fjeld @ Aug 1 2008, 11:41 PM)... Aug 2 2008, 11:19 AM
jmjawors Nitrogen was my thought as well. They specificall... Aug 2 2008, 04:28 AM
nprev Hmm. Your comment kicked my brain, Jim.
How do N... Aug 2 2008, 04:47 AM
Stu I may be in a minority here (no change there then... Aug 2 2008, 09:29 AM
Paul Fjeld QUOTE (Stu @ Aug 2 2008, 04:29 AM) And ag... Aug 2 2008, 03:21 PM
nprev Stu, when I used the term UMSF before I wasn't... Aug 2 2008, 12:54 PM
Stu QUOTE Stu, when I used the term UMSF before I wasn... Aug 2 2008, 01:32 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Stu @ Aug 2 2008, 06:32 AM) The st... Aug 2 2008, 06:05 PM

Paul Fjeld QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Aug 2 2008, 01:05 PM)... Aug 2 2008, 06:07 PM

djellison QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Aug 2 2008, 07:05 PM)... Aug 2 2008, 07:00 PM

dvandorn QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 2 2008, 02:00 PM) ... Aug 2 2008, 09:21 PM

PFK One minute it was all about ice delivery to ovens,... Aug 2 2008, 09:26 PM

Stu QUOTE (PFK @ Aug 2 2008, 10:26 PM) One mi... Aug 2 2008, 09:34 PM
Paul Fjeld QUOTE (Stu @ Aug 2 2008, 08:32 AM) Shudde... Aug 2 2008, 06:06 PM
imipak Talk about admin headaches - it can't be much ... Aug 2 2008, 04:18 PM
nprev Good post, Fred. No, I don't blame Covault (th... Aug 2 2008, 04:41 PM
Stu Coverage of this story on Universe Today... Aug 2 2008, 05:21 PM
nprev Er....let's not add to the admin's headach... Aug 2 2008, 06:31 PM
Paul Fjeld QUOTE (nprev @ Aug 2 2008, 02:31 PM) Star... Aug 2 2008, 07:12 PM
Stu That's a great shame, because I find NASAWATCH... Aug 2 2008, 06:47 PM
stevesliva I was enjoying both the speculation and the meta c... Aug 2 2008, 07:15 PM
centsworth_II Scientists face increasing pressure from intereste... Aug 2 2008, 08:08 PM
Paul Fjeld QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Aug 2 2008, 04:08 ... Aug 2 2008, 09:07 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (Paul Fjeld @ Aug 2 2008, 05:07 PM)... Aug 2 2008, 09:52 PM
djellison One thing's for sure - it's going to be an... Aug 2 2008, 08:25 PM
nprev ...good one, PFK!
In a way, I'm honored..... Aug 2 2008, 09:34 PM
gpurcell Just saw a post on this on the general political d... Aug 2 2008, 09:39 PM
nprev Oh, crap. Probably not long at all; propogation ti... Aug 2 2008, 09:41 PM
Stu Well, it's no huge surprise is it? Once the me... Aug 2 2008, 09:51 PM
jmknapp QUOTE (Stu @ Aug 2 2008, 05:51 PM) Well, ... Aug 3 2008, 01:39 AM
belleraphon1 For myself, I was just surprised by Craig Covault... Aug 3 2008, 01:14 AM
andrea Nasawatch.com comments on the phoenix twitter: ... Aug 3 2008, 06:16 AM
CosmicRocker Hehe! It's so much fun to speculate about... Aug 3 2008, 07:19 AM
Sunspot Well the twitter page seem to refute ALL of this s... Aug 3 2008, 10:17 AM
djellison QUOTE Reports claiming there was a White House bri... Aug 3 2008, 10:48 AM
nprev QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 3 2008, 03:48 AM) ... Aug 3 2008, 01:29 PM
marsbug I go away for one week to move house and everyone ... Aug 3 2008, 11:57 AM
Stu Oh, definitely hype, but hype of a mysterious, shi... Aug 3 2008, 02:01 PM
nprev I completely agree. It's going to be intere... Aug 3 2008, 02:24 PM
jmjawors Has anyone seen any of these news reports implying... Aug 3 2008, 02:36 PM
Stu I think it's just the same story but spun a li... Aug 3 2008, 02:59 PM
Paul Fjeld I just read this on Keith's site:
"Of co... Aug 3 2008, 03:22 PM
nprev Of course there's life on Mars. Chuck Norris i... Aug 3 2008, 03:04 PM
jmjawors Actually, Chuck Norris has already been to Mars; t... Aug 3 2008, 03:17 PM
Paul Fjeld QUOTE (jmjawors @ Aug 3 2008, 11:17 AM) m... Aug 3 2008, 03:30 PM
Paul Fjeld QUOTE (Paul Fjeld @ Aug 3 2008, 10:30 AM)... Aug 3 2008, 04:14 PM
tasp {Let me point out I have no inside information, an... Aug 3 2008, 03:20 PM
nprev Well...let's just put it in perspective: Is an... Aug 3 2008, 03:33 PM
Greg Hullender Does anyone have a feel for how significant it is ... Aug 3 2008, 03:51 PM
nprev QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Aug 3 2008, 08:51... Aug 3 2008, 05:04 PM
imipak Well, who knows. If there's anything more to t... Aug 3 2008, 04:46 PM![]() ![]() |
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