Leaving Victoria crater |
Leaving Victoria crater |
Aug 5 2008, 05:51 AM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
I hope we'll get a closer look at these rocks, they fascinated me as we scooted on past, especially that hard-looking blocky one among the crumbly-looking ones (apologies for the technical terms!)...
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Aug 5 2008, 06:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3419 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Member No.: 15 |
Oh, come now, Stu -- you *know* that geologists just made up words like "friable" so's they could say a rock was crumbly and sound all ed-jee-cated while saying it...
-the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Aug 5 2008, 06:40 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
I am so ready to get get back out on the plains in search of the cobble float! Giddyup. I have my list of favorites that were neglected back up the trail. This should be fun.
This image is part of a large set of apparently identical sub-frame images and so I assume that it is a super-res image. I would really appreciate it if someone was to process this image and other images of Capo Verde to bring out the details that interest MER geologists so much. ... It appears that there were several superres sets taken in the area of the proposed contact. I think the raw image you provided a link to was one of the clearest examples. The set contained images from several filters, but the L6 filter was most numerous, and also the one most likely to provide the best resolution of these layers. I am attaching an attempt to coax some resolution from them. These are difficult for me, and the official version will be much better than my attempt with the raw jpegs, but I think I managed to improve the resolution of the bedrock somewhat. The talus below the cliff was degraded in this image, though.It's curious that they suggested that highres and superres imagery helped identify the contact. It was pretty apparent in previous images and panoramas, and quite clear in the panorama from ant103 that you linked to. Perhaps those images were the highres ones they referred to. But to be honest, I have to agree with shaka. I've searched dilligently for distinctive stratigraphy/mineralogy, too, and I haven't seen it in the depths of this crater. Finding one fossil Martian dune field overriding a predecessor is a pretty nifty observation for a rover...don't get me wrong. I don't want to marginalize it. This is one for the robotic rockhound textbooks. But, such a thing is to be expected, and is a relatively common occurence in terrestrial rocks. Let's also not forget that there is another story of the rocks being collected by the MER's geochemical instruments, the details of which we have less access to, and which it seems apparent to this observer, that there is a rich story unfolding. As we all consider the news about the discovery of the base of a dune unit, don't forget the qualifiers published in that update. QUOTE And underneath that dune field? PaulM: I know what you are saying about the S-to-N and N-to-S laminations, but this Cape is only one small outcrop. I don't think we confidently know the morphology of these dunes/ripples. Are they barchans, linear, transverse, star, or one of the other varieties? The team may eventually tell us. Surely that is one of the reasons they decided to drive around part of Victoria, to observe the lateral stratigraphic variations in the capes and bays."Another dune field," offered Hayes. "It might be either be a completely different dune field below it or it could be that the dune field we're looking at was part of a very, very large dune field. You can have dunes running on the back of other dunes, so it can either something like a 10-to-30-foot dune riding on back of a 100-foot dune field or it's another dune field from another time." Oh yeah, and did I note that they appeared to be friable, as well? -------------------- ...Tom
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Aug 5 2008, 07:30 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
I'm happy...*
How could we ever reach Ithaca from inside that crater?... * and back... -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Aug 5 2008, 07:41 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
THERE you are!!!
(shouts off to the side: "It's okay guys, you can stop scanning Portugal with HiRISE, we've found him..." ) -------------------- |
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Aug 5 2008, 07:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
Thought you'd fallen into some abyss somewhere!
What do you hear from SS these days? -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Aug 5 2008, 08:00 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
Thought you'd fallen into some abyss somewhere! What do you hear from SS these days? Not much...been sniffing to much perchlorate to know with certainty what I've been doing... -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Aug 5 2008, 08:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
Didn't you see the Warning label on MECA?
"Don't try this at home!" -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Aug 5 2008, 08:49 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
Hey! At my home I'm free to try what I want!
-------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
Edgar Alan Poe |
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Aug 5 2008, 09:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2922 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
Hey! At my home I'm free to try what I want! I knew you were an extremofree kind of guy... Welcome back anyway on the other busy place of Mars -------------------- |
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Aug 6 2008, 05:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 530 Joined: 21-March 06 From: Canada Member No.: 721 |
New hazcam pics at exploratorium show no significant movement. I'm thinking they will be giving this spot a name shortly.
Edit: It even looks a bit like they might be trying to back up. |
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Aug 6 2008, 06:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4247 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
There was a bit of a turn to the left. And yet another late afternoon hazcam shot. I'd guess they're doing these late shots to improve the lighting on the rear wheel area. But a few more of these shots and we'll have a nice sunset shadows animation!
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Aug 7 2008, 05:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 877 Joined: 7-March 05 From: Switzerland Member No.: 186 |
Still a difficult situation to get progress there
Yes, such an animation would be cool. From the update 02.08 there's an afternoon sun over the cliff around 14:54 LTST/sol1607. The only ground image that matches is from sol1603/11:46. However, the two merged looks nice: -------------------- |
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Aug 8 2008, 06:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 568 Joined: 20-April 05 From: Silesia Member No.: 299 |
Significant progress today.
Sol 1612 http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...DCP1214R0M1.JPG Sol 1614 http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...DKP1202R0M1.JPG http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...DXP1214R0M1.JPG -------------------- Free software for planetary science (including Cassini Image Viewer).
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Aug 8 2008, 06:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4247 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
A turn in place followed by a long drive uphill on sol 1613 - I think we may be free of Quackmire 2!
And again a spectacular late afternoon Oppy-shadow-stretching-into-the-crater shot. Edit - scooped by Peter! |
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