Searching for Cobbles, Post Victoria Exploration |
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Searching for Cobbles, Post Victoria Exploration |
Sep 1 2008, 12:05 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 567 Joined: 4-September 06 From: Boston Member No.: 1102 |
Well, since Opportunity has left Victoria Crater, it is time for a new thread.
To the next phase of exploration. -Floyd -------------------- Floyd
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Sep 1 2008, 02:22 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 567 Joined: 4-September 06 From: Boston Member No.: 1102 |
According to the Planetary News Report of A.J.S. Rayl, Opportunity is ready rove. Due to wind gust on sols 1620 & 1633, and less tilt, she is up to 620 watt-hours from 370. Quoting from the report: ...Opportunity will soon begin the much-anticipated study of an assortment of cobbles on the plains, perhaps on a field of the intruder stones just to the north, though that is not yet set in Martian stone. "We haven't picked the first cobble yet," Squyres said, "but that's something we'll be thinking about in the next few days."
-------------------- Floyd
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Sep 2 2008, 04:59 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2164 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
Hehe... Well there sure are a lot of cobbles and ancient craters out there for the team to study. I can't wait to see where they go, next.
-------------------- ...Tom (thinks he should use more emoticons)
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Sep 3 2008, 05:30 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 530 Joined: 21-March 06 From: Canada Member No.: 721 |
Would it be possible to get an old route map marked up with notable cobble sightings? Give us an idea of where they might be headed.
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Sep 3 2008, 07:19 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4513 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
The Santa Caterina area on the north rim of Victoria is a good candidate.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Sep 3 2008, 08:26 PM
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Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Chairman Posts: 13229 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
http://pancam.astro.cornell.edu/pancam_ins...162B_dstar.html - Granada I think it's called....probably only a couple of weeks good driving back around Victoria - and some diversity visible even in the approx true colour
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Sep 3 2008, 08:34 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 4495 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Sloughhouse, CA Member No.: 197 |
It would be interesting to try some trenching in, around, and through the cobble piles to see if there is evidence of impact near the surface. If the cobbles were deposited in ancient times, then probably no impact evidence remains, but if they arrived on a recent timescale we might see some deformation or compression of the subsurface soil particles.
-------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Sep 3 2008, 08:52 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2561 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
It would be interesting to try some trenching in, around, and through the cobble piles to see if there is evidence of impact near the surface. If the cobbles were deposited in ancient times, then probably no impact evidence remains, but if they arrived on a recent timescale we might see some deformation or compression of the subsurface soil particles. Is there any risk doing some trenching regarding the weel issue? |
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Sep 11 2008, 08:00 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 4160 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
This is in the imaging plan for sol 1648 (tomorrow):
01648::p2446::18::16::16::0::0::2::34::pancam_cobble_field_L257R2 First target maybe? |
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Sep 12 2008, 07:51 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 161 Joined: 15-August 07 From: Shrewsbury, Shropshire Member No.: 3233 |
The following 3rd September Opportunity Update talked about where the rover would drive to next:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/sta...tml#opportunity I do not think that this update has been discussed yet in UMSF. This Update said: "...The rover also acquired images of a planned study area known as "Bright Spot" because of the large amount of sunlight reflected from its surface..." The Update also said: "...Sol 1639:...Opportunity took images of "Bright Patch Two" with the panoramic camera..." Is it possible that "Bright Patch 2" is part of "Bright Spot"? This seems to be the PANCAM photo of "Bright Spot 2" that is being referred to: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...OYP2571L2M1.JPG The way that I read the Update, "Bright Patch 2" and "Bright Spot" are new targets several meters away from Opportunity's current location and are not simply located on the large sand ripple on the rim of Victoria? Does the direction of Bright Spot give any indication as to whether Opportunity will be travelling North, South, East or West next? |
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Sep 13 2008, 07:51 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 4160 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
I'll double-check later but AFAIK these features are all located at the current site.
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Sep 13 2008, 10:14 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2126 Joined: 9-February 04 From: UK Member No.: 16 |
The way that I read the Update, "Bright Patch 2" and "Bright Spot" are new targets several meters away from Opportunity's current location and are not simply located on the large sand ripple on the rim of Victoria? Does the direction of Bright Spot give any indication as to whether Opportunity will be travelling North, South, East or West next? I'm not sure, "Bright Patch 2" is as your image link shows, right in front of Oppy. Could "Bright Spot" be the "bright_dust" sequence taken on sol 1641: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...4P2442R2M1.HTML The drive yestersol (1648) was a short one in this direction, so this looks like it may be the next target. (Next drive is tomorrowsol (1650)) -------------------- My MER & MSL Imagery site - Martian Vistas ---- Twitter Feed (including sol by sol updates on Opportunity's activity)
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Sep 13 2008, 02:53 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 530 Joined: 21-March 06 From: Canada Member No.: 721 |
I was kind of hoping Bright Spot was the Beacon and they were going to head over and examine it. Mind you, that would be a long hike over to the far rim, but it is on the way toward Ithaca.
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Sep 13 2008, 02:58 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 4160 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
Speaking about driving, I would expect much more moves now that the IDD "shoulder" motor is left unusable.
Think of it; if you want to sniff/look at a target to the left/right of the centerline the rover must be moved instead of just moving the arm to the target's position. |
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Sep 17 2008, 03:59 AM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 530 Joined: 21-March 06 From: Canada Member No.: 721 |
Well, looking at today's front and rear hazcams, I think they are asking for an embedding if they continue trying to get to Bright Whatever. Front wheels seem to be digging in and rear tracks look like some churning going on. That's a scary looking drift.
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