IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Shuttle Extension 2015, the buzz
PDP8E
post Sep 2 2008, 05:39 PM
Post #1


Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 523
Joined: 10-October 06
From: Maynard Mass USA
Member No.: 1241




http://www.al.com/news/huntsvilletimes/ind....xml&coll=1

This is instead of 2010 -- still preliminary though.......hmmmmm....


--------------------
CLA CLL
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
 
Start new topic
Replies
djellison
post Sep 3 2008, 05:22 PM
Post #2


Administrator
****

Group: Chairman
Posts: 13803
Joined: 8-February 04
Member No.: 1



ESA isn't politics (how can you draw an analogy about that?). Talking about politicians or political parties is, however. Given the nature of who has asked for the Shuttle to be retired in 2010 - who is asking for an extension to be investigated - and what's happening in November - it's hard to discuss this without politics getting involved.

However - the Politics rule is here for a reason - and it will never be up for debate.

Basically - if you need a definition of politics - look in a dictionary.

It's impossible to write down forum rules. I've tried - but it's essentially impossible because at any decision process, it's a judgement call. This, however, is a very clear, unambiguous one.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
ilbasso
post Sep 3 2008, 08:32 PM
Post #3


Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 752
Joined: 23-October 04
From: Greensboro, NC USA
Member No.: 103



QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 3 2008, 01:22 PM) *
ESA isn't politics (how can you draw an analogy about that?). Talking about politicians or political parties is, however.

Maybe a better example would have been the "Science Eviscerated in NASA Budget" thread. Telling people to influence their Congresspeople about how to vote on an issue, even if it is near and dear to our hearts, sounds pretty political to me.

However, if the understanding is that we avoid names of people and parties, that's a little clearer.

QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 3 2008, 01:22 PM) *
Basically - if you need a definition of politics - look in a dictionary.


I literally just now came from a meeting with a European client who had a document which defined politics as, "Understanding people and their motivations, and using this understanding to influence and move work forward."

Maybe the solution is that if there are subjects which the moderators feel smack of politics, they should be moved to the Policy and Strategy subforum, which people can avoid more easily.


--------------------
Jonathan Ward
Manning the LCC at http://www.apollolaunchcontrol.com
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
- PDP8E   Shuttle Extension 2015   Sep 2 2008, 05:39 PM
- - djellison   This is a near impossible subject to discuss witho...   Sep 2 2008, 06:00 PM
|- - Paolo Amoroso   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 2 2008, 08:00 PM) ...   Sep 2 2008, 06:10 PM
||- - Greg Hullender   QUOTE (Paolo Amoroso @ Sep 2 2008, 11:10 ...   Sep 3 2008, 09:26 PM
|- - PDP8E   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 2 2008, 02:00 PM) ...   Sep 2 2008, 06:43 PM
|- - lyford   QUOTE (PDP8E @ Sep 2 2008, 11:43 AM) Eith...   Sep 2 2008, 08:54 PM
||- - Greg Hullender   QUOTE (lyford @ Sep 2 2008, 12:54 PM) Are...   Sep 3 2008, 03:52 AM
||- - lyford   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Sep 2 2008, 08:52...   Sep 3 2008, 03:19 PM
|- - TheChemist   QUOTE (PDP8E @ Sep 2 2008, 09:43 PM) Eith...   Sep 2 2008, 10:33 PM
- - dvandorn   Leaving politics and funding issues aside, I think...   Sep 3 2008, 06:14 AM
- - Exploitcorporations   Great points from Doug and Wayne Hale's blog.....   Sep 3 2008, 07:58 AM
- - ilbasso   Is there a definition somewhere of how we are oper...   Sep 3 2008, 04:54 PM
- - djellison   ESA isn't politics (how can you draw an analog...   Sep 3 2008, 05:22 PM
|- - ilbasso   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 3 2008, 01:22 PM) ...   Sep 3 2008, 08:32 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (ilbasso @ Sep 3 2008, 09:32 PM) Ma...   Sep 3 2008, 08:39 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (ilbasso @ Sep 3 2008, 01:32 PM) Ma...   Sep 3 2008, 09:06 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   If you aren't sure, it's probably best to ...   Sep 3 2008, 05:26 PM
|- - climber   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Sep 3 2008, 07:26 PM...   Sep 3 2008, 07:13 PM
- - nprev   Speaking absolutely apolitically, there seem to be...   Sep 4 2008, 08:03 AM
- - ilbasso   Last word on the subject, I promise, but I found t...   Sep 4 2008, 12:02 PM


Reply to this topicStart new topic

 



RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 24th October 2014 - 12:46 PM
RULES AND GUIDELINES
Please read the Forum Rules and Guidelines before posting.

IMAGE COPYRIGHT
Images posted on UnmannedSpaceflight.com may be copyrighted. Do not reproduce without permission. Read here for further information on space images and copyright.

OPINIONS AND MODERATION
Opinions expressed on UnmannedSpaceflight.com are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of UnmannedSpaceflight.com or The Planetary Society. The all-volunteer UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderation team is wholly independent of The Planetary Society. The Planetary Society has no influence over decisions made by the UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderators.
SUPPORT THE FORUM
Unmannedspaceflight.com is a project of the Planetary Society and is funded by donations from visitors and members. Help keep this forum up and running by contributing here.