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MSL schedule delay?
vjkane
post Sep 9 2008, 08:10 PM
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The most recent Aviation Week and Space Technology (9/8) has the following tidbit in a piece on NASA schedule delays:

"On the robotoic front, the testing schedule for a critical instrument for the Mars Science Laboratory -- dubbed SAM for Sample Analysis at Mars -- may delay launch of the advanced rover from its 2009 planetary window into 2011."


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post Oct 30 2008, 09:25 PM
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Alan Stern's thoughts on the MSL budget problems have been posted at http://futureplanets.blogspot.com/


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post Oct 31 2008, 02:10 AM
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QUOTE (vjkane @ Oct 30 2008, 01:25 PM) *
Alan Stern's thoughts on the MSL budget problems have been posted at http://futureplanets.blogspot.com/

From Stern's article: "When the National Research Council's Planetary Science Decadal Survey recommended the Mars Science Laboratory (MSL) mission for priority funding, it assigned a cost level of $650 million."

Feel free to read this report: http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10898
and decide if it was ever intended to be the basis of real funding plans. IMHO it is disingenuous to cite the report for this purpose.

Note that the report was written in 2003, well in advance of any MER results and long prior to the payload suite of MSL being selected.
I don't even see where MSL was assigned "medium mission" status. The report explicitly assigns "large mission" (>$650M) for "preparation for Mars Sample Return".


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- vjkane   MSL schedule delay?   Sep 9 2008, 08:10 PM
- - MahFL   Oh crap, please say it's not true.   Sep 10 2008, 04:45 PM
- - monitorlizard   I read that same tidbit. It'll be interesting...   Sep 10 2008, 06:19 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (monitorlizard @ Sep 10 2008, 07:19...   Sep 10 2008, 06:34 PM
- - vjkane   Science magazine just published an article on the ...   Sep 25 2008, 11:47 PM
- - Burmese   Given the ongoing series of reported delays and se...   Sep 26 2008, 05:14 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Burmese @ Sep 26 2008, 09:14 AM) S...   Sep 26 2008, 06:15 PM
||- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Sep 26 2008, 01:15 PM...   Sep 26 2008, 06:40 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Burmese @ Sep 26 2008, 06:14 PM) l...   Sep 26 2008, 07:30 PM
- - siravan   If MSL launch is in fact delayed until 2011, there...   Sep 27 2008, 06:54 PM
- - Fran Ontanaya   If a delay to 2011 allows to address the issues wi...   Sep 27 2008, 07:07 PM
|- - mars loon   According to this new report in Aviation Week on O...   Oct 3 2008, 04:11 PM
- - Vultur   Ouch. I really, really hope they can finish buildi...   Oct 4 2008, 12:37 AM
|- - gallen_53   I have heard that $1.7 billion has already be...   Oct 4 2008, 04:59 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (gallen_53 @ Oct 4 2008, 05:59 AM) ...   Oct 4 2008, 09:06 AM
|- - climber   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 4 2008, 11:06 AM) ...   Oct 4 2008, 10:13 AM
- - Tman   Yes, time to move on! And which one would you ...   Oct 4 2008, 01:08 PM
- - vjkane   I agree with Doug that simply buying more MERs ins...   Oct 4 2008, 01:25 PM
- - Mariner9   The scary thing about the 'smaller cheaper rov...   Oct 4 2008, 05:10 PM
- - imipak   Whilst it's clear that neither MER or MSL are ...   Oct 4 2008, 05:24 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (imipak @ Oct 4 2008, 01:24 PM) ......   Oct 4 2008, 06:01 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   We are starting to tread into that circular discus...   Oct 4 2008, 06:06 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Oct 4 2008, 07:06 PM...   Oct 4 2008, 06:31 PM
- - dvandorn   If you have a reliable committment to fly a rover ...   Oct 4 2008, 06:21 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 4 2008, 02:21 PM) W...   Oct 4 2008, 06:33 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 4 2008, 07:21 PM) I...   Oct 4 2008, 06:41 PM
- - djellison   What's the point in talking about flying ...   Oct 4 2008, 06:54 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 4 2008, 07:54 PM) ...   Oct 4 2008, 07:12 PM
- - Burmese   My initial comments about MSL were intended to foc...   Oct 4 2008, 07:51 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (Burmese @ Oct 4 2008, 08:51 PM) .....   Oct 4 2008, 07:55 PM
- - climber   I remember that one of the reason the MERs flew an...   Oct 4 2008, 08:57 PM
- - Burmese   http://www.mcclatchydc.com/science/story/53487.htm...   Oct 5 2008, 07:29 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (Burmese @ Oct 5 2008, 07:29 PM) ht...   Oct 5 2008, 08:47 PM
- - vjkane   I did more research on the enhanced ExoMars, and w...   Oct 5 2008, 09:01 PM
|- - SFJCody   All very depressing stuff. I get the sense the US ...   Oct 5 2008, 09:38 PM
- - Fran Ontanaya   http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/overview/ QUO...   Oct 5 2008, 09:31 PM
- - gallen_53   My reading of the tea leaves is the whole Mars Pro...   Oct 6 2008, 04:08 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (gallen_53 @ Oct 6 2008, 04:08 PM) ...   Oct 6 2008, 04:22 PM
||- - gallen_53   QUOTE (vjkane @ Oct 6 2008, 05:22 PM) I...   Oct 6 2008, 04:45 PM
||- - gallen_53   QUOTE (vjkane @ Oct 6 2008, 04:22 PM) Als...   Oct 6 2008, 05:07 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (gallen_53 @ Oct 6 2008, 09:08 AM) ...   Oct 7 2008, 03:44 AM
|- - andrea   I want to add a "couple" of consideratio...   Oct 7 2008, 05:02 AM
|- - gallen_53   QUOTE (andrea @ Oct 7 2008, 05:02 AM) I c...   Oct 7 2008, 07:22 PM
- - djellison   I think it's worth reminding people of the str...   Oct 6 2008, 05:22 PM
|- - gallen_53   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 6 2008, 05:22 PM) ...   Oct 6 2008, 06:26 PM
- - djellison   You've quoted what I've said - but you...   Oct 6 2008, 06:29 PM
- - djellison   OK - a post explicitly calling for a specific pers...   Oct 6 2008, 07:43 PM
- - Burmese   There are a number of mainstream media outlets car...   Oct 6 2008, 08:04 PM
- - PhilHorzempa   I imagine that someone at NASA has thought of this...   Oct 7 2008, 02:56 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (PhilHorzempa @ Oct 6 2008, 07:56 P...   Oct 7 2008, 03:42 AM
- - dmuller   I dont know how much money can be saved by launchi...   Oct 7 2008, 04:27 AM
- - Fran Ontanaya   Good points. Both MER and Phoenix show what rovers...   Oct 7 2008, 05:38 AM
- - Juramike   space.com article on the MSL "issues".   Oct 8 2008, 03:51 AM
- - gpurcell   My guess is that MSL flies eventually, just becaus...   Oct 8 2008, 02:59 PM
|- - BrianL   Oops, bordering on political there, better be care...   Oct 8 2008, 05:45 PM
- - Sunspot   MEDIA ADVISORY: M08-200 NASA TO PROVIDE MARS SCIE...   Oct 9 2008, 09:57 PM
- - climber   I would say that the Title already state that MSL ...   Oct 10 2008, 01:37 PM
- - Stu   I'd agree with that... whilst keeping my finge...   Oct 10 2008, 03:27 PM
- - climber   I fully agree Stu. You say the right worlds. May b...   Oct 10 2008, 04:51 PM
- - imipak   NASA TV doesn't seem to be carrying the press ...   Oct 10 2008, 07:03 PM
|- - punkboi   Woohoo! Here's hoping everything is still...   Oct 10 2008, 07:45 PM
- - elakdawalla   Very short statement. Decision is to continue una...   Oct 10 2008, 07:04 PM
- - centsworth_II   "The descent stage, otherwise known as the sk...   Oct 10 2008, 07:11 PM
- - ChrisC   Grrrr, the promised streaming http://www.nasa.gov/...   Oct 10 2008, 07:11 PM
|- - ChrisC   QUOTE (ChrisC @ Oct 10 2008, 02:11 PM) Gr...   Oct 12 2008, 03:53 PM
||- - djellison   QUOTE (ChrisC @ Oct 12 2008, 04:53 PM) Ca...   Oct 12 2008, 04:10 PM
||- - climber   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 12 2008, 06:10 PM)...   Oct 13 2008, 07:09 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (ChrisC @ Oct 10 2008, 03:11 PM) Gr...   Oct 12 2008, 09:07 PM
|- - rdale   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Oct 12 2008, 05:07...   Oct 13 2008, 12:58 PM
- - elakdawalla   You're not missing much. It's not too inf...   Oct 10 2008, 07:15 PM
- - Stu   I can't get on either... Never mind, not t...   Oct 10 2008, 07:17 PM
- - elakdawalla   The biggest thing causing both budget and schedule...   Oct 10 2008, 07:21 PM
- - imipak   Phew, that's a rare bit of good news. (I hope ...   Oct 10 2008, 07:43 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (imipak @ Oct 10 2008, 02:43 PM) .....   Oct 10 2008, 08:13 PM
- - elakdawalla   The weight of MSL is the main problem. One specif...   Oct 10 2008, 08:36 PM
- - centsworth_II   "Among the major hardware problems: the actua...   Oct 10 2008, 08:43 PM
- - imipak   ( <snip!> lengthy ramble about the need ...   Oct 10 2008, 08:55 PM
|- - ustrax   Fantastic piece of writing Emily! Regardin...   Oct 10 2008, 10:37 PM
|- - climber   QUOTE (ustrax @ Oct 11 2008, 12:37 AM) Fa...   Oct 11 2008, 12:58 PM
- - Norm Hartnett   http://www.lpi.usra.edu/pss/presentations/...10/gr...   Oct 10 2008, 11:33 PM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (Norm Hartnett @ Oct 11 2008, 12:33...   Oct 13 2008, 04:40 PM
|- - MahFL   Yes.....it's go !...for now..... Go for M...   Oct 13 2008, 04:54 PM
||- - rdale   QUOTE (MahFL @ Oct 13 2008, 12:54 PM) Yes...   Oct 13 2008, 06:32 PM
|- - SFJCody   QUOTE (gpurcell @ Oct 13 2008, 05:40 PM) ...   Oct 13 2008, 06:07 PM
- - Bobby   From yahoo news. No Delay from Nasa regarding MSL...   Oct 11 2008, 06:17 AM
- - vjkane   Alan Stern's thoughts on the MSL budget proble...   Oct 30 2008, 09:25 PM
- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (vjkane @ Oct 30 2008, 01:25 PM) Al...   Oct 31 2008, 02:10 AM

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