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djellison
post Oct 3 2008, 07:12 PM
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All we really needed was a subtle tweak to sort out this current torrent - not a single spam registration so far, whereas we would have had 40 in a similar period a day ago. All registrations go thru a manual approval process anyway.
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post Oct 3 2008, 09:11 PM
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For a regular supply of easy-to-Google questions, you could use the weekly Planetary Radio Trivia question. Once in a while they'd not be appropriate, but mostly they're pretty easy to find the answers to.

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post Oct 3 2008, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 3 2008, 11:12 AM) *
All we really needed was a subtle tweak to sort out this current torrent - not a single spam registration so far, whereas we would have had 40 in a similar period a day ago. All registrations go thru a manual approval process anyway.

Very cool. But that does make it seem that the attack was automated, not manual. Be interesting to see how long it stays fixed.

And I think Emily's suggestion is brilliant. :-)

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post Oct 4 2008, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Oct 3 2008, 05:41 PM) *
I managed Microsoft's anti-spam effort for Live Search for two years before my retirement, (snip! excellent info)


Small world, I work for (but don't manage! biggrin.gif) a spam-filtering company. One point, CAPTCHAs have been repeatedly broken by clever but evil programmers. It's only worth the effort for high-value targets (webmail, especially - Gmail, Yahoo and Hotmail have been plagued by this) but if the same Invision CAPTCHA's used by all IPB sites that might make it attractive enough. So a random, very easy UMSF-related question might be a better Turing test,.. until the blackhats develop a natural language parser, anyway wink.gif


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post Oct 4 2008, 02:17 PM
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It doesn't even need to be random to avoid this recent problem. It's 'Mars is known as the what coloured planet (lower case)?'. That just stops the automated spamming. Manual spammers may well still get through - but I've not had more than a handful of spammers in the last year that I've had to pick up at the approval stage smile.gif
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post Oct 4 2008, 04:07 PM
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Just something to make them go back and look at the board would be enough of a deterrent. Like, name one UMSF member with more than 1000 posts.


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post Oct 4 2008, 05:26 PM
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I just want to throw in a word of caution ... whatever measures are introduced, try not to punish the legitimate applicants. Someone just starting out on this topic may not be able to provide the correct answer (or be able to spell it in English), and hence that person('s interest) may be lost.

I'm talking from my own experience here. Some i**** spammers are spoofing my email, and I promptly ended up on one of those anti-spam databases. The result: I submit quotes and proposals by email, my emails get blocked, potential customers dont receive them and I don't get the work and income. And if you find out about it 1 month later, then it's all too late. And of course you're never able to contact those anti-spam database managers, if you know who they are in the first place. That's been my major frustration for the weekend. I'm glad Messenger Mercury II is coming up :-)


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post Oct 7 2008, 07:39 AM
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The new system is working beautifully. Normal registration numbers, not a single spammer.
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post Oct 9 2008, 01:15 AM
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Is there an admin address that will go to everyone on the team for reporting an infestation?

Doug is presumably asleep right now, and I don't know who's on duty.

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post Oct 9 2008, 01:52 AM
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Yep. At the lower left of each post is a button that looks like "!REPORT" Just report the post, and a PM goes to everyone on the admin team.

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post Oct 9 2008, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Oct 8 2008, 03:52 PM) *
"!REPORT"

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That's a cool feature I didn't know about, Emily.
On another issue, would it perhaps be helpful to Members if Administration posted some guidelines on how UMSF should handle the issue of Rover Driver (Paolo) and our recent work with him on Terrain Drivability Analysis. Does any further discussion fall under the 'politics' ban, or is there an acceptable way to continue this thread?
Thanks for your time.


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post Oct 9 2008, 05:04 AM
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Just assume that he's still reading.
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