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INCOMING!, Detection and observation of Earth-approaching asteroids.
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post Oct 6 2008, 10:39 PM
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Man, I've never seen anything quite like this. Twenty observatories have turned in collectively nearly 200 observations of this object, and the Minor Planet Center is issuing updates about every fifteen minutes. This little rock is definitely getting it's share of attention.

A fair number of professional observatories seem to be poised to follow this thing almost into the ground.
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post Oct 6 2008, 10:53 PM
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LINKS, man! Give us links, HTL!


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post Oct 6 2008, 10:59 PM
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Link

Anything with 2008 TC3. Most recent on top.

BTW: "HTL"? Whazzat?
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post Oct 6 2008, 11:31 PM
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I guess they won't be seeing it from here (bad luck!): Haboob sandstorm in Sudan


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post Oct 6 2008, 11:38 PM
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If this thing is coming in shallow from NE to SW then it should be visible in Alexandria, Cairo, Egyptian tourist destinations, maybe as far down as Khartoum ... so there is some chance to get it on film. If I get my timzones right, it will be night then. Anybody's got a groundtrack?


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post Oct 6 2008, 11:46 PM
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hmm, I think my Celestia copy needs fixing. Using the most up-to-date orbital parameters, I get a miss distance of 5,850 km over North Africa.


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post Oct 6 2008, 11:55 PM
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The NEO Program lists it as a close approach at 0.02 LD. That's under 8000 km.

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/ca/

It was briefly in the Recently Observed list of Impact Risk, with dates beyond 2080, but it isn't anymore.


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post Oct 6 2008, 11:59 PM
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Used a reliable horizon calculator to come up with some figures. Provided you have a clear horizon.

When it is at 20 miles altitude (32 km), under perfect seeing, it should be visible for over 400 miles (640 km) in every direction. It will probably survive down to this far.

It should also be glowing brightly at 50 miles altitude (80 km), and at that point be seen for at least 650 miles (1000 km).
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post Oct 7 2008, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE (Shaka @ Oct 6 2008, 01:31 PM) *
My SR71 is in maintenance, or I'd be over there like a shot.

Edit: Hey nprev! What can you rustle up in the next hour?


Funny you should mention SRs. AFAIK, NASA is still flying a couple of those, but they're probably not equipped for astronomical obs (aeronautical stuff is their focus, I think.) Not enough notice to get 'em there, though, in any case.

Re spaceborne obs: Wonder if anybody's geosynchronous weathersats in that region might try to get an IR-band snapshot?


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post Oct 7 2008, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 6 2008, 02:10 PM) *
...probably not equipped for astronomical obs...

Hey, guy! Just open the camera and roll inverted. Piece of cake.
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Re spaceborne obs: I'm sure that the DSP sats will see it come in,

I'll bet SBIRS HEO1 could count the microcraters on her. Assuming the timing was right. cool.gif


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post Oct 7 2008, 12:34 AM
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post Oct 7 2008, 12:47 AM
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Emily pointed to a beautiful simulation of the event at http://orbit.psi.edu/?q=node/22


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post Oct 7 2008, 12:56 AM
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By the way, discussion on Minor Planets Mailing List (which is where I got the link to that simulation) indicates that the press release wasn't correct when it described the flight direction -- it's not coming in from northeast, it's coming in more from the west, basically over the Sahara.

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post Oct 7 2008, 01:00 AM
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I agree, that's the direction I got from my simulation in Celestia.


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post Oct 7 2008, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE (Shaka @ Oct 6 2008, 06:48 PM) *
Er.. thanks, HTL. (If I wrote Holder of the Two Leashes every time, my posts would get trashed for wasting bandwidth.)
When you referred to loads of observatories, I sort of anticipated a CometCam live picture.
Ephemera are nice, but not very sexy. blink.gif


My bad. I'm one of the very few people who could even get a little excited over watching raw positional information pouring in.

Here is one real picture: Sky and Telescope

I'm pretty sure just about every other pic of 2008 TC3 looks like that at this point.

In a couple of hours, we may be getting some much more spectacular shots.

A lot of people will shorten my title to "Holder", and I'll answer to that. The dogs don't mind, either. Actually, they don't have a clue.
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