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Nov 7 2008, 09:56 PM
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Hubble may be on the blink, but the data analysis and discoveries roll on:
Hubble Announces A Major Extrasolar Planet Discovery WASHINGTON -- NASA will hold a Science Update to report on a significant discovery about planets orbiting other stars at 2:30 p.m. EST, Thursday, Nov. 13, in NASA's James E. Webb auditorium. This unique discovery, made by the Hubble Space Telescope's Advance Camera for Surveys instrument, also will be featured in the Nov. 14 issue of the journal Science. The briefing participants are: -- Ed Weiler, associate administrator of NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington -- Sara Seager, associate professor of Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, Mass. -- Paul Kalas, assistant adjunct professor, Physics and Astronomy Department, University of California at Berkeley. -- Mark Clampin, James Webb Space Telescope Observatory project scientist, NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. -- Marc Kuchner, exoplanet scientist, Astrophysics Science Division, NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. Reporters attending the event will have an opportunity to ask questions. News media representatives not attending will be able to ask questions via teleconference. To participate in the teleconference, reporters must email a request for dial-in information that includes their media affiliation and telephone number to J.D. Harrington at j.d.harrington@nasa.gov by 1 p.m. EST, Nov. 13. |
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Nov 13 2008, 05:28 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 4763 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 197 |
EDIT: It looks like the Keck press release and images has been taken down. Maybe someone can dig the image out of their cache. I can't figure out where anything is on the Vista system I'm running here. -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Nov 13 2008, 05:47 PM
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I printed it out, but didn't think to save it to the hard drive. =(.
And no, the HST release isn't as good as this Keck release. -------------------- -- Hungry4info (Sirius_Alpha)
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Nov 13 2008, 05:48 PM
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Looks like Keck pulled the whole thing off the website - maybe the didn't realize that the Hubble announcement was today, and felt bad about stepping on toes?
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Nov 13 2008, 05:51 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 877 Joined: 7-March 05 From: Switzerland Member No.: 186 |
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Nov 13 2008, 06:01 PM
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An overseas press site screwed up the embargo... If you want to be spoiled:
Its gratifying to know that the research and data parsing skills they taught me in High School still aren't failing me, my initial prediction was spot on. Hubble snaps a pic of a planet orbiting Fomalhaut during Paul Kalas's observation campaign. Goto google news, and search for the terms keck and extrasolar. Oh those poor Hubble scientists... definitely a cool announcement but man, Keck really stole their thunder. For Paul Kalas's sake, I'll pretend not to know about the Keck one, so his personal research triumph can have a few moments to shine. It really is a great discovery, and he'll always be able to say that he got in this particular first... |
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Nov 13 2008, 06:04 PM
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![]() The Poet Dude ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Three planets circling a naked eye star I'll be able to see from my backyard tonight... wonderful, just wonderful...
GLORIOUS times we live in! -------------------- |
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Nov 13 2008, 07:16 PM
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![]() The Poet Dude ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Some more on this from Phil P...
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Nov 13 2008, 07:42 PM
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The gemini press release is up - better than the late Keck one, imho.
http://www.gemini.edu/node/11151 ... and the Hubble announcement is up now too! http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/s.../fomalhaut.html Daniel |
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Nov 13 2008, 07:52 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 160 Joined: 4-July 05 From: Irvine, CA, USA Member No.: 429 |
This summarizes all announcements:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0811...-exoplanet.html |
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Nov 13 2008, 08:32 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 722 Joined: 3-December 04 From: Boulder, Colorado, USA Member No.: 117 |
I'd say the Hubble discovery is just as spectacular as the Keck/Gemini discovery. It's a smaller planet (3 Jupiter masses rather than 6-10 Jupiter masses for the Keck/Gemini planets, assuming all those numbers are reliable), and is thus more like those in our own solar system, and it's seen in reflected light rather than by its internal heat radiation, which provides a whole different way to study it (if it has water ice rings, for instance, we might be able to detect them spectroscopically).
Both results are amazing, anyway. John. |
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Nov 13 2008, 08:37 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1599 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Vermont Member No.: 530 |
Is that Formalhaut or the Eye of Sauron?
Very cool discoveries. |
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Nov 13 2008, 08:47 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3516 Joined: 4-November 05 From: North Wales Member No.: 542 |
So we have a system of 3 hot planets detected by their intrinsic IR (Gemini/Keck), and a single (somewhat smaller?) planet imaged by the visible light from it's parent star, but probably with a large contribution from light scattered by a surrounding moon-forming disc or ring close to the planet. One has to question whether this planet could have been detected by light reflected from it's globe alone.
Has anyone got information on the object's visual magnitude, or of what magnitude would have been expected from simple reflection off a globe at that distance from Fomalhaut? These are both giant steps, but there are still plenty of 'firsts' left for others to claim in future as more wonderful results come in. |
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Nov 13 2008, 09:55 PM
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![]() The Poet Dude ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
All the Hbbble images (and videos) of Fomalhaut you could want, right here...
http://www.spacetelescope.org/news/html/heic0821.html -------------------- |
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Nov 13 2008, 11:23 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1454 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
Well I was certainly wrong.
I underestimated HST. I wasn't aware it could do that Very awesome discovery (both of them). -------------------- -- Hungry4info (Sirius_Alpha)
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Nov 14 2008, 01:28 AM
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Merciless Robot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 8791 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Delighted to be not at all underwhelmed!!!
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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