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http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2008/dec/H...MSL_Update.html
From the wording of this announcement, MSL is clearly still on, which is a good thing. We'll have to wait and see. Doug |
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Dec 4 2008, 08:08 PM
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It's somewhat disappointing to see that MSL has been delayed to a 2011 launch, but the upside is that there will be more time for testing of critical elements like the actuators which are critical and the all important skycrane which is a brand new technology.
It is better in my opinion for MSL to have a delay and a flawless flight/landing/surface operations than a rushed job resulting perhaps in at best a faulty rover that can't do good science on Mars and at worst a failed landing attempt and the consequences of that disaster. Beagle 2 and Mars Polar Lander paid the price of corner cutting and a big rush to launch. That said, Emily's question regarding the riskiness of relying on MRO to support data downlink from MSL is very important. Might there now be a need to launch a dedicated Mars telecoms orbiter to support the surface missions , a plan that was scrapped a while back? |
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Dec 4 2008, 08:30 PM
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Might there now be a need to launch a dedicated Mars telecoms orbiter to support the surface missions... Need or not, there's no money for such a thing. I guess if Odyssey and MRO (and MEx?, not sure about the politics there) have failed by the time MSL lands, then MSL will be DTE-only. Would they launch MSL if all the orbital assets were failed at the time of launch? I have no idea. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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djellison Dec 4th News Conference Dec 3 2008, 08:58 PM
Stu I know a lot of people involved with MSL lurk here... Dec 3 2008, 09:06 PM
SFJCody Might be a delay announcement Dec 4 2008, 12:00 AM
djellison QUOTE (SFJCody @ Dec 4 2008, 12:00 AM) Mi... Dec 4 2008, 12:01 AM
centsworth_II I guess they can report on whether the actuators n... Dec 4 2008, 07:01 AM
mars loon It does sound more like a delay
especially in li... Dec 4 2008, 03:00 PM
Stu Anyone here who wants to watch the briefing but ha... Dec 4 2008, 04:54 PM
dvandorn And it's official -- launch delay to 2011, pri... Dec 4 2008, 05:03 PM
MahFL NO !!!!!!!!!... Dec 4 2008, 05:09 PM
dvandorn I understand the feeling.
In addition, there is a... Dec 4 2008, 05:12 PM
Stu Disappointing, I know, but much, much better to de... Dec 4 2008, 05:15 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 4 2008, 09:15 AM) ...ver... Dec 4 2008, 05:25 PM
dvandorn Charles Elachi -- "It doesn't matter if y... Dec 4 2008, 05:17 PM
dvandorn You sure, Mike? Griffin says that the coast therm... Dec 4 2008, 05:27 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 4 2008, 09:27 AM) G... Dec 4 2008, 05:49 PM
elakdawalla The 2011 launch window is in December, right? Doe... Dec 4 2008, 05:34 PM
dvandorn And for those of you who are hoping that your pet ... Dec 4 2008, 05:38 PM
dvandorn When asked why it's so important to have the a... Dec 4 2008, 05:43 PM
djellison 2011 window is October to December - yet to be det... Dec 4 2008, 05:43 PM
elakdawalla My question was answered. 2011 goes from Oct thro... Dec 4 2008, 05:43 PM
dvandorn OK, Mike -- thanks. I just figured that since the... Dec 4 2008, 05:53 PM
elakdawalla Dammit, they didn't get to me on the phone que... Dec 4 2008, 05:58 PM
ElkGroveDan I've been wondering that too Emily.
I just ch... Dec 4 2008, 06:14 PM
dvandorn Spoke too soon, there, eh, Emily? Good to hear yo... Dec 4 2008, 06:01 PM
djellison Damn good question Emily. Dec 4 2008, 06:01 PM
dvandorn Also good to hear that the decay of the plutonium ... Dec 4 2008, 06:03 PM
elakdawalla Is 5% insignificant, given the fact that the trave... Dec 4 2008, 06:04 PM
RoverDriver QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 4 2008, 10:04 AM... Dec 4 2008, 06:52 PM
elakdawalla OK, and here's one more question that I wouldn... Dec 4 2008, 06:34 PM
ugordan QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 4 2008, 07:34 PM... Dec 4 2008, 06:38 PM
jsheff QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 4 2008, 01:34 PM... Dec 4 2008, 06:51 PM

ugordan QUOTE (jsheff @ Dec 4 2008, 07:51 PM) Out... Dec 4 2008, 06:54 PM
stevesliva QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 4 2008, 01:34 PM... Dec 4 2008, 06:55 PM
sci44 Wasn't there talk of Maven being delayed? Anot... Dec 4 2008, 06:51 PM
elakdawalla Ah, I hadn't realized that. Thanks. --Emily Dec 4 2008, 06:52 PM
elakdawalla The only other Mars mission NASA is currently deve... Dec 4 2008, 06:57 PM
djellison Key point I got was that the $400m is not in ... Dec 4 2008, 07:02 PM
ugordan QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 4 2008, 08:02 PM) ... Dec 4 2008, 07:09 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 4 2008, 11:02 AM) ... Dec 4 2008, 07:27 PM
sci44 It doesnt sound like NASA has funds for the Teleco... Dec 4 2008, 08:30 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (sci44 @ Dec 4 2008, 12:30 PM) ESA ... Dec 4 2008, 09:01 PM
djellison A failure of MODY, MRO AND MEX in 4 years? Highly... Dec 4 2008, 08:38 PM
elakdawalla Yeah, I've little doubt that, barring some rea... Dec 4 2008, 08:41 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 4 2008, 12:41 PM... Dec 4 2008, 09:17 PM
djellison By then, hopefully, we'll have Maven Dec 4 2008, 08:45 PM
sci44 But we may need to delay Maven to pay for MSL. The... Dec 4 2008, 08:50 PM
djellison QUOTE (sci44 @ Dec 4 2008, 08:50 PM) But ... Dec 4 2008, 09:10 PM
elakdawalla I just got an official reply to my question from D... Dec 4 2008, 09:36 PM
OWW QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 4 2008, 10:36 PM... Dec 4 2008, 09:53 PM
mars loon Overall I was encouraged by the decisions and prog... Dec 4 2008, 10:22 PM
sci44 So it sounds like they can use MEX too. I did have... Dec 4 2008, 10:25 PM
PaulM Does the two Year delay change the time of Year at... Dec 4 2008, 10:55 PM

Tesheiner QUOTE (PaulM @ Dec 4 2008, 11:55 PM) Does... Dec 5 2008, 09:11 AM

PaulM QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Dec 5 2008, 10:11 AM) ... Dec 5 2008, 09:44 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (sci44 @ Dec 4 2008, 02:25 PM) [DTE... Dec 4 2008, 10:57 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 4 2008, 02:57 PM)... Dec 4 2008, 11:08 PM
djellison MER passes were typically 30 - 90 minutes, and MER... Dec 4 2008, 11:18 PM
ElkGroveDan True, but you had an orbiting satellite which has ... Dec 4 2008, 11:29 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Dec 4 2008, 03:29 PM... Dec 4 2008, 11:40 PM
djellison That is DTE session.
UHF sessions with orbite... Dec 4 2008, 11:40 PM
Bobby Oppy & Spirit will still be Trucking Along in ... Dec 4 2008, 11:57 PM
sci44 QUOTE (Bobby @ Dec 4 2008, 11:57 PM) Oppy... Dec 5 2008, 12:08 AM
nprev Hmm. You know, if (a big if indeed, I know) the ME... Dec 5 2008, 12:58 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 4 2008, 04:58 PM) Can ... Dec 5 2008, 03:52 AM
elakdawalla As much as I love and admire the MERs, I think hav... Dec 5 2008, 04:18 AM
nprev True, Emily. Playing "what-if" is a very... Dec 5 2008, 04:42 AM
monitorlizard If I'm interpreting Ed Weiler correctly, NASA ... Dec 5 2008, 09:28 AM
mps QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 4 2008, 08:34 PM... Dec 5 2008, 09:43 AM
elakdawalla It's a good question but I don't know what... Dec 5 2008, 05:45 PM
Doc 3 of the landing sites currently being considered ... Dec 5 2008, 06:44 PM
brellis Alan Stern had something to say about this today: ... Dec 6 2008, 05:07 AM
peter59 I would like notice that the postponement Mars Sci... Dec 6 2008, 10:55 AM
djellison QUOTE (peter59 @ Dec 6 2008, 10:55 AM) I ... Dec 7 2008, 07:28 PM
dvandorn At the risk of continuing this divergence in the t... Dec 6 2008, 05:17 PM
dvandorn I just went looking for a rate table of DSN fees, ... Dec 8 2008, 04:35 AM
djellison QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 8 2008, 04:35 AM) S... Dec 8 2008, 08:45 AM
dvandorn Oh, agreed. And obviously, according to the formu... Dec 8 2008, 02:03 PM
ilbasso Maybe USMF members can all point their satellite T... Dec 8 2008, 03:24 PM
RoverDriver QUOTE (ilbasso @ Dec 8 2008, 07:24 AM) Ma... Dec 8 2008, 04:04 PM
ilbasso No, I didn't think this was physically possibl... Dec 8 2008, 08:04 PM
imipak Per "The Problem With Wikipedia" ( http:... Dec 8 2008, 09:14 PM
RoverDriver Suppose you are in your livingroom and want to hea... Dec 9 2008, 12:06 AM
ElkGroveDan Perfect example Paolo! (you crack me up). Dec 9 2008, 12:41 AM
Pando Paolo, you just made my day... Dec 9 2008, 03:57 AM
Oersted 2 years delay = 2 MSLīs?
I am sure they can scro... Dec 10 2008, 11:03 PM
djellison QUOTE (Oersted @ Dec 10 2008, 11:03 PM) 2... Dec 11 2008, 07:59 AM![]() ![]() |
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