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Dec 15 2008, 07:12 PM
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Conjunction is over, so it is probably a good time to start a new thread.
I just saw this update from Scott via Twitter QUOTE ('marsroverdriver') Out of solar conjunction & planning to drive Spirit again. Woo-hoo! Come on, little hill-climber, you can do it! -------------------- |
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Dec 31 2008, 11:11 PM
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I was wondering - as you know, Spirit is trying to climb up a fairly steep slope. Looking at the direction of the dust streaks as it appears to "clear", could that be consistant with mechanical vibration aiding the clearance, or is that not possible - so this is purely the wind doing the work? To what extent could the clearing be an optical illusion - ie, when there is bright light fully reflected by the panels, they appear dusty, when not, the dusty patterns on the dark panels stand out..
Just my 2 cents.. |
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Dec 31 2008, 11:43 PM
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I was wondering if the dust movement was caused by a Marsquake.
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Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM
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But Mars crust is dead, and probably a quake strong enough to shake the rover would make a lot of dust go airborne over Gusev.
A very small vibration can't be the solution, or that shaking mode they tried to clean the MiniTES mirror would have been enough. |
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Jan 1 2009, 12:51 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 206 Joined: 15-August 07 From: Shrewsbury, Shropshire Member No.: 3233 |
But Mars crust is dead, and probably a quake strong enough to shake the rover would make a lot of dust go airborne over Gusev. The Viking seismometer did not detect any Marsquakes. However as this abstract makes clear the seismometer was not very sensitive and only worked on none windy days: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1979GeoRL...6..368G It is stated in this article that a picture taken by MRO may be evidence of a Marsquake: http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/03/hi...ches-in-action/ |
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Jan 1 2009, 08:41 AM
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There must be a minimum seismic level the MER can directly sense if it tries to.
Would the vibration trigger the dust devil capture program if it was running (and would the microscope be able to capture movement if it was looking)? About the avalanches, I remember from high school geology that thermal expansion, abrasion, frost weathering, weight removal or even haloclastia or chemical weathering could be involved. |
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Jan 1 2009, 11:56 AM
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There must be a minimum seismic level the MER can directly sense if it tries to. It has IMU's and Accelerometers, not Seismometers. This is an issue we've covered before here. Even if it detected shuddering from a DD (and indeed, there is about a pixels worth of shift at the summit of Husband Hill during strong winds) then by the time the rover had stopped doing whatever it was doing ( if indeed it has the power to be doing anything at that time anyway ) - it wouldn't even know which direction to point the Navcams to take an image of the DD that would be long gone anyway. The new software to do DD/Cloud watching is a far more sensible and productive means to achieve that sort of thing. Doug |
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jamescanvin Post-Conjunction at Home Plate North Dec 15 2008, 07:12 PM
mhoward QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Dec 15 2008, 12:12 P... Dec 15 2008, 07:32 PM
fredk Still no new images at exploratorium, though. I h... Dec 15 2008, 08:07 PM
mhoward Hmmm. Good point. Dec 15 2008, 08:16 PM
RoverDriver QUOTE (fredk @ Dec 15 2008, 12:07 PM) Sti... Dec 15 2008, 09:18 PM
dvandorn OK, I'll admit my ignorance -- what was wrong ... Dec 16 2008, 05:39 AM
centsworth_II QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 16 2008, 12:39 AM) ... Dec 16 2008, 06:39 AM
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climber How much do we have to drive to get the solar pane... Dec 16 2008, 03:25 PM
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peter59 Everything indicates that we are after the solar c... Dec 16 2008, 09:17 PM
mars loon I just got word from a team member that signal has... Dec 16 2008, 09:30 PM
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RoverDriver QUOTE (peter59 @ Dec 22 2008, 12:54 PM) U... Dec 22 2008, 11:21 PM
alan If they get all three wheels on the left side onto... Dec 22 2008, 11:05 PM
RoverDriver QUOTE (alan @ Dec 22 2008, 03:05 PM) If t... Dec 22 2008, 11:26 PM
OWW Is it my imagination?
Or, or, or.... could it rea... Dec 28 2008, 10:06 AM
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I was coming here to add a post about the... Dec 28 2008, 10:12 AM
Tesheiner Got it!
Here's two shots at this same poin... Dec 28 2008, 10:29 AM
Oersted Those two pics in Tesheiners posting make it prett... Dec 28 2008, 10:46 PM
Astro0 Doug blowing out those 30 candles may have made a ... Dec 28 2008, 10:53 AM
akuo Yay!
Definitely not a trick of light since yo... Dec 28 2008, 11:02 AM
helvick Looks like a significant change to me, can't w... Dec 28 2008, 11:53 AM
sci44 You see? Gluing on a mince-pie, glass of sherry an... Dec 28 2008, 12:06 PM
BrianL Back to the bump, which I perceive as intentionall... Dec 28 2008, 04:50 PM
imipak Is it my imagination or does the dust look a bit t... Dec 28 2008, 05:05 PM
Fran Ontanaya The rear hinge and a wire are partially covered by... Dec 29 2008, 02:38 AM
fredk QUOTE (Fran Ontanaya @ Dec 29 2008, 03:38... Dec 29 2008, 05:05 AM
Shaka Not before time either! HazCam
Looks like it... Dec 29 2008, 02:41 AM
CosmicRocker Perhaps it's premature to join the cheerleader... Dec 29 2008, 06:04 AM
Tesheiner While still waiting for new Whr figures, just one ... Dec 29 2008, 02:27 PM
peter59 QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Dec 29 2008, 03:27 PM)... Jan 1 2009, 05:56 PM
hortonheardawho sol 1738-1761 R2 comparison:
Another R2 of the... Dec 29 2008, 06:01 PM
Oersted But Horton, that comparison is not with an image t... Dec 29 2008, 11:29 PM
hortonheardawho QUOTE (Oersted @ Dec 29 2008, 06:29 PM) B... Dec 30 2008, 12:10 AM
jamescanvin QUOTE (hortonheardawho @ Dec 30 2008, 12... Dec 31 2008, 02:00 PM
djellison Something's definitely happened, but those few... Dec 31 2008, 03:51 PM
jamescanvin I think that this pancam is pointed at the rear of... Dec 31 2008, 03:55 PM
RoverDriver QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Dec 31 2008, 07:55 A... Dec 31 2008, 04:04 PM
RoverDriver Indeed. We tried to see what happens to the testb... Jan 1 2009, 02:51 PM
ElkGroveDan Happy New Year Paolo.
Say....before you put down ... Jan 1 2009, 05:27 PM
RoverDriver QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jan 1 2009, 09:27 AM... Jan 2 2009, 05:34 AM
djellison That article was probably penned before this suspe... Jan 1 2009, 06:30 PM
lyford A cleaning event would be a good way to celebrate ... Jan 1 2009, 07:12 PM
Stu Yep, a cleaning event would be a fantastic New Yea... Jan 1 2009, 07:24 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 1 2009, 02:24 PM) ... fo... Jan 1 2009, 09:55 PM
CosmicRocker I've been eagerly watching for the much antici... Jan 2 2009, 06:10 AM
CosmicRocker I know this is OT for this thread (move it, if nec... Jan 2 2009, 07:53 AM
djellison It's BnW pan, similar to the Lyell pan - but a... Jan 2 2009, 08:10 AM
jamescanvin Garrels was taken in colour but in the end the L2 ... Jan 2 2009, 12:37 PM
Ipparchus I didn`t hear anywhere if there really was or ... Jan 4 2009, 01:36 PM
djellison Please read through this thread for all the inform... Jan 4 2009, 01:39 PM
Oersted I for one am still looking forward to info on an e... Jan 4 2009, 06:36 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (Oersted @ Jan 4 2009, 01:36 PM) I ... Jan 4 2009, 08:08 PM
Tesheiner FWIW, there is a deck mosaic planned to be taken t... Jan 4 2009, 08:47 PM
Astro0 While we wait for power numbers, movement, deck pa... Jan 4 2009, 09:22 PM
briv1016 According to the tracking site the Bonestall Pan i... Jan 4 2009, 10:32 PM
djellison 95% of it's down - and of the remaining 5% - i... Jan 4 2009, 10:38 PM
Ipparchus I `d like to propose a route for Spirit, that ... Jan 5 2009, 11:11 AM
djellison QUOTE (Ipparchus @ Jan 5 2009, 11:11 AM) ... Jan 5 2009, 11:13 AM

mhoward QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 5 2009, 04:13 AM) ... Jan 5 2009, 01:38 PM
fredk QUOTE (Ipparchus @ Jan 5 2009, 12:11 PM) ... Jan 5 2009, 09:13 PM
djellison QUOTE (fredk @ Jan 5 2009, 09:13 PM) it h... Jan 5 2009, 09:54 PM
PaulM Now that Spirit is committed to backing off Home P... Jan 5 2009, 12:48 PM
sci44 With only 150W/h available, wont most of the drivi... Jan 5 2009, 12:55 PM
djellison She did get onto Home Plate with 5WD after the Sil... Jan 5 2009, 02:56 PM
mhoward QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 5 2009, 07:56 AM) ... Jan 5 2009, 03:05 PM
BrianL On the other side of the planet, there seems to be... Jan 5 2009, 06:29 PM
djellison QUOTE (BrianL @ Jan 5 2009, 06:29 PM) Als... Jan 5 2009, 06:41 PM
lyford Plus, dragging the wheel behind gives it an Igor-e... Jan 5 2009, 06:48 PM
djellison I tend to describe it as a puppy dragging a broken... Jan 5 2009, 07:17 PM
fredk QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 5 2009, 08:17 PM) ... Jan 5 2009, 09:18 PM
Stu QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 5 2009, 07:17 PM) ... Jan 5 2009, 10:21 PM
ElkGroveDan Stu's going to have fun with you over that one... Jan 5 2009, 08:55 PM
CosmicRocker QUOTE (mhoward @ Jan 5 2009, 07:38 AM) Th... Jan 6 2009, 04:41 AM
peter59 Finally a clear decision.
http://qt.exploratorium.... Jan 7 2009, 08:55 AM
briv1016 The real question now is what are our power levels... Jan 7 2009, 01:39 PM
RoverDriver QUOTE (briv1016 @ Jan 7 2009, 05:39 AM) T... Jan 7 2009, 05:49 PM
Stu On the move again...
Animation here. Jan 7 2009, 02:03 PM
Sunspot Judging by the deep shadows the sky looks like it ... Jan 7 2009, 06:18 PM
mhoward Emily wrote:
QUOTE Spirit has slid downhill, and... Jan 7 2009, 06:52 PM
brellis Remember to look both ways before crossing the (so... Jan 7 2009, 08:02 PM
Tesheiner QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Jan 8 2009, 03:47 ... Jan 8 2009, 08:40 AM
RoverDriver QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Jan 8 2009, 12:40 AM) ... Jan 8 2009, 03:37 PM
Ipparchus QUOTE (RoverDriver @ Jan 8 2009, 05:37 PM... Jan 9 2009, 11:40 AM
RoverDriver QUOTE (Ipparchus @ Jan 9 2009, 03:40 AM) ... Jan 9 2009, 12:22 PM
mhoward New Navcam pan for Sol 1784. Here once again is my... Jan 9 2009, 03:44 PM
Doc And a panorama for quick browse.
The ground sur... Jan 9 2009, 07:07 PM
Zvezdichko http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/na...89P19... Jan 9 2009, 09:35 PM
djellison In some places less, in some places more - I think... Jan 9 2009, 09:52 PM
ElkGroveDan But a good sign nonetheless. Now if we get a few ... Jan 9 2009, 10:15 PM
djellison Oh yeah. We're at 'cleaning time' in ... Jan 9 2009, 10:20 PM![]() ![]() |
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