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Dec 15 2008, 09:03 PM
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There was a news briefing at AGU this afternoon covering the results of the Enceladus flybys this fall:
Saturn's Dynamic Moon Enceladus Shows More Signs of Activity http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/press-rele....cfm?newsID=889 The imaging team has released several image products showcasing the results from the encounter: http://ciclops.org/view_event/98/Enceladus_Shifting_Terrain I do hope you all enjoy the two large mosaics that accompany this image release: Tiger Stripes...Magnified! http://ciclops.org/view/5409/Tiger_StripesMagnified http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA11135 A Tectonic Feast http://ciclops.org/view/5310/A_Tectonic_Feast http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA11133 I guess the big results from ISS is the "new" theory that the tiger stripes are analogous to the mid-ocean ridges on earth, spreading centers that act as axes where new terrain is produced. -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Dec 19 2008, 05:51 AM
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When I finally figured out (with Phil's appreciated help) that Jason was speaking of tectonic compression features, I felt sorta stupid. Well, we all have days like that...
I guess one of the $64,000 questions here is the length of time we think this particular era of crustal spreading has been going on. And to have any real idea of the amount of new crust formed in a given timeframe, we need to know how fast the spreading is taking place. I think we may lack the data to confidently answer either of those questions. However, you can toss assumptions into the equations, and get ideas of various ranges. That lets you put together a variety of models, which you can then figure out how to test. If compressional forces are piling up a very thick mass of hard ice in a given region, and yet we don't seem to see constructional forms (i.e., mountain ranges or big, obvious bulges), we've got to conclude that the thickest part of the pile is sinking into an elastic mantle. It may not be subducting as a plate under another plate, but if it's being recycled into the mantle, it's at least a subduction-like process. I'm not sure that it's actually melting into the mantle. I think we may have a somewhat unique "warm ice" process going on at several places in the mantle, where the material is solid but has elastic properties. I have no idea when or how the phase change from either amorphous or crystalline water ice to this warm ice with elastic properties takes place -- I'm not even sure the physics of that proposed state of ice are all that well thought-out right now. (Obviously, if anyone has any references to the current thinking on the subject, I'd love to see them... But I think we need to know more about properties of the Enceladan mantle that underlies such subduction-like processes before we can model what's happening, how long it's been happening, and how fast it's happening. And as much as I'd enjoy getting enough information to answer these questions, I'm not positive that Cassini is capable of gathering enough of the right kind of data to do so. -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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volcanopele Enceladus @ AGU Dec 15 2008, 09:03 PM
belleraphon1 Absolutely beautiful .... not just the imaging, bu... Dec 15 2008, 11:32 PM
dvandorn If Enceladus' crust is actively spreading, the... Dec 16 2008, 05:32 AM
volcanopele The spreading is likely compensated via compressio... Dec 16 2008, 06:08 AM
Floyd dvandorn
Where is all the heat coming from to keep... Dec 16 2008, 06:52 PM
Doc Yes, that paper was out a while ago and neatly exp... Dec 17 2008, 10:37 AM
dvandorn Exactly, Doc. There are limits to the compressibi... Dec 17 2008, 03:52 PM
Floyd How about compression with fracturing with ice mov... Dec 17 2008, 06:26 PM
Phil Stooke "how exactly does compression compensate for ... Dec 17 2008, 06:35 PM
Juramike Tectonic compression,
a blue-white impression
ice... Dec 17 2008, 07:05 PM
Doc Please enlighten us Phil. To tell you the truth th... Dec 17 2008, 07:20 PM
Juramike I think the Ganymede grooved terrain was predicted... Dec 18 2008, 04:15 AM
Fran Ontanaya Q. Does the surface ice become amorphous due to th... Dec 18 2008, 05:11 PM
Doc QUOTE (Fran Ontanaya @ Dec 18 2008, 08:11... Dec 18 2008, 05:24 PM
Fran Ontanaya But even if the 'accordion' terrain doesn... Dec 18 2008, 06:23 PM
Doc I would expect the ice to melt in the relatively w... Dec 18 2008, 07:03 PM
Juramike I'm really not sure but...
At the center of t... Dec 18 2008, 07:09 PM
Doc Bingo Mike! I think you can call that subducti... Dec 18 2008, 09:23 PM
scalbers Perhaps I should simply study the video more and s... Dec 20 2008, 10:11 PM![]() ![]() |
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