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post Dec 29 2004, 08:23 PM
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Pando : Latest: There are indications that there is a possible dust storm developing. The power levels have dropped quite dramatically at around Sol 330 for Opportunity and is somewhat worrisome. At Gusev things are trending similarly although it's a Sol or so later. This is getting interesting as it may even mean a global dust storm


This seems to be deserving of its own topic, going off of Pando's post in the heatshield thread.

Unfortunetly, the TES mainpage doesn't have daily dust maps anymore, and the latest bolometer images are from Dec 21:
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The TES spectrometer is currently being used intermittently. At this time we're no longer producing daily images or movies of 15 micron atmospheric temperature or dust opacity. The TES bolometer is still being used full-time, and we will continue to update the daytime and nighttime temperature movies.


I was looking at the rear haz from Sol 331, wondering what sort of clouds might be responsible, but a dust storm might make more sense.



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post Jan 28 2005, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE (Marcel @ Jan 28 2005, 01:28 PM)
while we know, that horizontal surfaces should build up dust much more than vertical ones.

Really? The air on mars may be thin - but it's there, and has wind - and the dust it carries is quite 'clingy' - and imho, it is the side of things that should get dustier first as the dust doesnt 'fall' out the sky, it drifts with the air flow. Infact, you could tell the prevailing wind at Gusev by the side of the sundial the dust stuck to after the first dozen days on the lander smile.gif If the horez. surfaces should be dustier than the sides of surfaces - then how can you explain the rocks on the ground at gusev - many have a dusty upwind side and a less dusty downwind side. The same is true of pathfinder - infact Yogi is a prime example - v.dusty on the left - much darker on the right. You can see it on the earliest pictures of the black mast - dust up one side much faster than it gathers on the top.

Put it this way - when its raining, you windows get wet as WELL as the floor, and in a blizzard, the snow hits your windows and melts a lot quicker than it lands on the floor.

The colours demonstrated in those images are not exagerated - and imho, instead of being sadened by the state of Spirit - it's grounds to celebrate and rejoice in the fact that DESPITE all that dust, the damn thing's still working biggrin.gif And imagine how long Opportuinty would have to spend at Meridiani to get that dirty ohmy.gif Those images say to me - look - despite all this, they still work, so you can expect a whole lot more wheel.gif wheel.gif wheel.gif to come yet smile.gif

Doug

PS - to celebrate, the wheel emoticon now rotates biggrin.gif
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- slinted   Dust Storm?   Dec 29 2004, 08:23 PM
- - dot.dk   This could be real bad news Can they put the r...   Dec 29 2004, 08:41 PM
- - Decepticon   I see why not? Just make sure the Batts are fully...   Dec 29 2004, 10:25 PM
- - slinted   If this is indeed the begining of a global dust st...   Dec 29 2004, 10:48 PM
- - lyford   I'm no expert, but that looks like a light art...   Dec 29 2004, 11:07 PM
- - Sunspot   changed my rather emabarrassing original message l...   Dec 29 2004, 11:08 PM
- - akuo   The MGS used to take dust measurements daily, but ...   Dec 29 2004, 11:12 PM
- - lyford   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Dec 29 2004, 11:08 PM)Defina...   Dec 29 2004, 11:21 PM
- - Sunspot   Forward HazCam shot:   Dec 29 2004, 11:24 PM
- - alan   never mind   Dec 29 2004, 11:29 PM
- - Sunspot   There is a message in the group dated Dec 12 2004 ...   Dec 29 2004, 11:34 PM
- - lyford   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Dec 29 2004, 11:34 PM)There ...   Dec 30 2004, 12:26 AM
- - Sunspot   Well.......at least we got to see the heatshield.   Dec 30 2004, 12:32 AM
- - slinted   OK, I'm fairly convinced now that Lyford is co...   Dec 30 2004, 09:23 AM
- - akuo   Slinted, I wondered about the rear hazcam images t...   Dec 30 2004, 11:33 AM
- - akuo   Ok, the effect is again visible in today's rea...   Dec 30 2004, 12:52 PM
- - Sunspot   How much of a power drop did Opportunity experienc...   Dec 30 2004, 01:14 PM
- - lyford   well, the same shmutz is on the rear hazcam images...   Dec 30 2004, 06:55 PM
- - slinted   QUOTE (akuo @ Dec 30 2004, 12:52 PM)Ok, the e...   Dec 30 2004, 07:15 PM
- - Sunspot   Is it just me or do the shadows ast by the pancam ...   Dec 30 2004, 07:17 PM
- - slinted   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Dec 30 2004, 07:17 PM)Is it ...   Dec 30 2004, 07:31 PM
- - Sunspot   Well we should find out whats happening at Mondays...   Dec 30 2004, 07:36 PM
- - Pando   QUOTE (slinted @ Dec 29 2004, 01:23 PM)This s...   Dec 31 2004, 05:40 AM
- - Pando   To give you an idea what's going on, the atmos...   Dec 31 2004, 06:22 AM
- - Pando   QUOTE How much of a power drop did Opportunity exp...   Dec 31 2004, 08:27 AM
- - lyford   Again, thanks Pando for the inside scoop!   Dec 31 2004, 07:45 PM
- - mhoward   Pando has already filled us in, but the duststorm ...   Jan 5 2005, 11:48 PM
- - Pando   Eh! took them a while... Here's some f...   Jan 6 2005, 12:08 AM
- - Sunspot   QUOTE (Pando @ Jan 6 2005, 12:08 AM)338 - 343...   Jan 6 2005, 12:32 AM
- - djellison   This is quite an interesting issue. Something spec...   Jan 18 2005, 07:10 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   A nicely detailed new Planetary Society article on...   Jan 22 2005, 03:26 PM
- - akuo   JPL has released dust comparison images between th...   Jan 26 2005, 03:38 PM
- - remcook   so, what do they use to calibrate the pictures now...   Jan 26 2005, 05:35 PM
- - djellison   You kind of have to trust Pancam I guess. You cali...   Jan 26 2005, 07:49 PM
- - akuo   There is also one almost clean spot on the rovers....   Jan 26 2005, 09:36 PM
- - sjdprods   If dust accumulation on the cells got to a point o...   Jan 26 2005, 11:10 PM
- - djellison   It's barely possible kinematically ( i..e the ...   Jan 26 2005, 11:47 PM
- - Marcel   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 26 2005, 07:49 PM)You ...   Jan 28 2005, 01:28 PM
- - djellison   QUOTE (Marcel @ Jan 28 2005, 01:28 PM)while w...   Jan 28 2005, 01:38 PM
- - Marcel   About the deposition of dust: one the huge advanta...   Jan 28 2005, 03:35 PM
- - djellison   QUOTE (Marcel @ Jan 28 2005, 03:35 PM)gltrs.g...   Jan 28 2005, 04:27 PM


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