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On my website sometime back, I added a page on the image fragment sent back by the Mars-3 Lander. I released serveral versions, including the best quality processing using othodox techniques I would use on other images plus colorization here:
http://pages.preferred.com/%7Etedstryk/fragmentc.jpg However, I released another image, which I called a "What if" image. This image can be seen here http://pages.preferred.com/%7Etedstryk/m3s5b.jpg It was produced via extreme processing of the original data to make a Mars-like scene, but I made it clear on my website it was only a speculative image. I strongly doubt if the raw data even shows Mars at all - it could be all noise. But since this mode of processing looked strangely Viking-like, I figured I would put it on the web. I was warned by several, who said that while fun, some kooks might take it seriously. My response was that I really don't care what kooks think. Then I noticed this web page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_2 They used the overprocessed image. I feel like it is being presented as a true photograph. This is of concern. -------------------- |
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tedstryk Mars 3 (Various Topics Merged) Dec 29 2004, 10:36 PM
lyford Since it's Wikipedia, can't you just delet... Dec 29 2004, 11:09 PM
tedstryk Thanks. I will be updating the Phobos-2 section s... Dec 30 2004, 01:12 AM
PhilHorzempa [size=2]
With regard to the Soviet Mars lan... Apr 18 2006, 10:02 PM
BruceMoomaw The Soviets actually do firmly know why Mars 2 fai... Apr 18 2006, 10:18 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 18 2006, 10:18 P... Apr 18 2006, 10:41 PM
The Messenger QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 18 2006, 04:18 P... Apr 19 2006, 03:59 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (The Messenger @ Apr 19 2006, 08:59... Apr 19 2006, 04:20 PM
The Messenger QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Apr 19 2006, 10:20 AM... Apr 19 2006, 05:56 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (The Messenger @ Apr 19 2006, 10:56... Apr 19 2006, 06:20 PM
The Messenger QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Apr 19 2006, 12:20 PM... Apr 21 2006, 03:53 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (The Messenger @ Apr 21 2006, 08:53... Apr 21 2006, 04:28 PM
BruceMoomaw Oh, yes, Perminov goes into great detail about the... Apr 19 2006, 02:49 PM
PhilHorzempa [size=2]
This discussion is very relevant to ... Apr 19 2006, 04:53 PM
tasp Sorry I can't cite a reference for this, but i... Apr 19 2006, 05:51 PM
ljk4-1 Two very relevant documents to this thread online:... Apr 19 2006, 06:01 PM
tasp QUOTE (tedstryk @ Dec 29 2004, 05:36 PM) ... Apr 19 2006, 06:06 PM
Phil Stooke tasp said "can any amount of processing put c... Apr 19 2006, 08:12 PM
djellison My take on it is - it might be a real picture, and... Apr 19 2006, 08:41 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 19 2006, 08:41 PM)... Apr 19 2006, 10:16 PM
BruceMoomaw QUOTE (tedstryk @ Apr 19 2006, 10:16 PM) ... Apr 20 2006, 01:52 AM
tedstryk QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 20 2006, 01:52 A... Apr 20 2006, 02:35 AM
ljk4-1 As I recall, the famous Mars 3 image was first sho... Apr 20 2006, 12:22 AM
BruceMoomaw Yeah, atmospheric conditions would have a lot to d... Apr 20 2006, 05:05 AM
ljk4-1 This company (which I have no involvement with) is... May 1 2006, 04:01 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ May 1 2006, 05:01 PM... May 1 2006, 05:08 PM
tedstryk I have one, and am quite fond of it May 1 2006, 08:28 PM
vikingmars QUOTE (tedstryk @ Dec 30 2004, 12:36 AM) ... May 2 2006, 08:37 AM
tedstryk QUOTE (vikingmars @ May 2 2006, 08:37 AM)... May 2 2006, 09:32 AM
djellison Might it be a vertically oriented image, but with ... May 2 2006, 09:59 AM
tedstryk QUOTE (djellison @ May 2 2006, 09:59 AM) ... May 2 2006, 10:23 AM
4th rock from the sun QUOTE (djellison @ May 2 2006, 10:59 AM) ... May 2 2006, 01:44 PM
vikingmars QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ May 2 2006, 03... May 3 2006, 08:57 AM
4th rock from the sun Just some data, to make things clearer:
The Mars ... May 3 2006, 03:14 PM
PhilHorzempa I thought that we could try to get the record stra... May 10 2006, 04:42 AM
Phil Stooke I have never heard 'Mars 8' used for that ... May 10 2006, 04:59 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 10 2006, 12:59 P... May 10 2006, 05:23 PM
tedstryk Mars '96 would have been Mars 8 if it hadn... May 10 2006, 05:29 PM
Zvezdichko 36 years ago, on this very same day, 2 December 19... Dec 2 2007, 11:58 AM
Adam I might be wrong, but wasn't it pretty much de... Dec 2 2007, 12:12 PM
Zvezdichko Yes. There have been speculations based on this im... Dec 2 2007, 12:16 PM
nprev A date & an achievement worth noting to be sur... Dec 2 2007, 01:17 PM
Zvezdichko Yes, only 14 years after Sputnik mankind achieved ... Dec 2 2007, 10:33 PM
dilo Perhaps a little bit OT, but not completely...
Tod... Dec 2 2007, 11:14 PM
peter59 QUOTE (dilo @ Dec 3 2007, 12:14 AM) Is in... Dec 3 2007, 06:13 PM
dilo QUOTE (peter59 @ Dec 3 2007, 07:13 PM) EX... Dec 4 2007, 04:28 PM
nprev You're absolutely right, Dilo...we need to kee... Dec 3 2007, 02:48 AM
Shaka Good, that makes three dreamers at UMSF.
How many ... Dec 3 2007, 05:20 AM
marsbug QUOTE (Shaka @ Dec 3 2007, 05:20 AM)
Go... Dec 4 2007, 04:48 PM
PDP8E another more recent thread (36 years on mars) has ... Dec 3 2007, 02:56 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (PDP8E @ Dec 3 2007, 02:56 PM) anot... Dec 3 2007, 05:22 PM
PhilCo126 Wait one minute, a topic on spacecraft lost around... Dec 4 2007, 06:55 PM
PDP8E MY SPECULATIVE ANALYSIS OF THE SOVIET MARS 3 LANDE... Dec 12 2007, 06:57 PM
vikingmars QUOTE (PDP8E @ Dec 12 2007, 07:57 PM) Som... Dec 16 2007, 09:34 PM
Phil Stooke "Its easy…look in and near northern Ptolemy C... Dec 12 2007, 07:50 PM
djellison So a 400km x 400km search box. 160,000 sqkm
That... Dec 12 2007, 08:02 PM
PDP8E A brief scan of the web turned up these images of ... Dec 14 2007, 03:51 PM
Paolo QUOTE (PDP8E @ Dec 14 2007, 04:51 PM) A b... Dec 15 2007, 08:18 AM
PhilCo126 Thanks for sharing those photos and only the black... Dec 15 2007, 05:54 PM
PDP8E We have had 8 more inches of snow today on top of ... Dec 16 2007, 08:36 PM
Geert Various sources all seem to confirm that the camer... Jun 6 2008, 07:56 AM
tedstryk Two or three minutes into the transmission, the fi... Jun 6 2008, 01:50 PM
aconnell Dear Tedstryk. I'd be really grateful if you c... Jun 6 2008, 05:11 PM
tedstryk It was an image I clearly labeled a "what if... Jun 6 2008, 05:46 PM
nprev I don't know, Ted. They're undeniably fasc... Jun 6 2008, 07:06 PM
tedstryk nprev, as I said in my description at the beginnin... Jun 6 2008, 08:26 PM
Geert On his excellent site on Soviet Space Cameras ( ht... Jun 7 2008, 08:42 AM
aconnell Many thanks Ted. I can remember as a teenager in t... Jun 7 2008, 02:09 PM
tedstryk It is a shame they didn't start the transmissi... Jun 7 2008, 02:26 PM
Zvezdichko Conspiracy theorists are and will always be a lost... Jun 7 2008, 02:39 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Jun 7 2008, 02:39 PM)... Jun 7 2008, 03:02 PM
Zvezdichko Yeah, MetNet is an elegant decision. However, I... Jun 7 2008, 03:23 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Jun 7 2008, 03:23 PM)... Jun 7 2008, 03:28 PM
tedstryk Oh, OK, in the sense of possible launch failure. ... Jun 7 2008, 03:46 PM
Zvezdichko I personally see Volna as an unreliable vehicle. Jun 7 2008, 03:35 PM
Zvezdichko Yeah, that's what I meant. Volna failed to lau... Jun 7 2008, 03:49 PM
tedstryk My guess is that the little Chinese orbiter took i... Jun 7 2008, 03:54 PM
Zvezdichko I understand, but I also don't see how the des... Jun 7 2008, 04:02 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Jun 7 2008, 04:02 PM)... Jun 7 2008, 04:05 PM
Zvezdichko You are probably right. The Chinese orbiter will b... Jun 7 2008, 04:17 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Jun 7 2008, 05:17 PM)... Jun 7 2008, 06:16 PM
Zvezdichko Yeah, that's why the failure of Mars 96 was re... Jun 7 2008, 06:41 PM
tedstryk I hope it makes it on there!
By the way, here... Jun 8 2008, 04:34 AM
Zvezdichko Ted, I'm reading the upper link with a great i... Jun 8 2008, 07:54 AM
tedstryk I don't think the Mars-6 flyby module took ima... Jun 8 2008, 12:52 PM
Geert QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Jun 8 2008, 02:54 PM)... Jun 9 2008, 05:12 AM
tedstryk QUOTE (Geert @ Jun 9 2008, 06:12 AM) The ... Jun 9 2008, 12:53 PM
Phil Stooke A different story on Mars 2 and Mars 3.
Where d... Feb 5 2009, 12:14 AM
tedstryk According to Sasha Basilevsky, Hellas was chosen f... Feb 5 2009, 12:39 AM
Phil Stooke Yikes - Google Mars has Mars 2 at the stupid Wikip... Feb 5 2009, 04:36 AM
Geert QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Feb 5 2009, 11:36 AM... Feb 6 2009, 09:38 AM
Phil Stooke Way off course by a few hundred km maybe, not half... Feb 6 2009, 11:50 AM
Geert QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Feb 6 2009, 06:50 PM... Feb 7 2009, 04:51 AM
tedstryk QUOTE (Geert @ Feb 7 2009, 05:51 AM) It i... Feb 7 2009, 01:47 PM
DDAVIS 'The fact that the landingsites were chosen fr... Feb 7 2009, 10:05 PM
Phil Stooke Hi Don! You are thinking of Mars 6. The Mari... Feb 7 2009, 11:16 PM
Phil Stooke http://www.laspace.ru/rus/mars23.php
Lavochkin we... Feb 14 2009, 02:51 AM
Geert QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Feb 14 2009, 09:51 A... Feb 14 2009, 05:26 AM
Geert Forgot to mention that according to the above reas... Feb 14 2009, 05:41 AM
nprev Thank you for this very comprehensive and interest... Feb 14 2009, 07:10 AM![]() ![]() |
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