IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Mars 3 (Various Topics Merged)
tedstryk
post Dec 29 2004, 10:36 PM
Post #131


Interplanetary Dumpster Diver
****

Group: Admin
Posts: 4404
Joined: 17-February 04
From: Powell, TN
Member No.: 33



On my website sometime back, I added a page on the image fragment sent back by the Mars-3 Lander. I released serveral versions, including the best quality processing using othodox techniques I would use on other images plus colorization here:
http://pages.preferred.com/%7Etedstryk/fragmentc.jpg
However, I released another image, which I called a "What if" image. This image can be seen here http://pages.preferred.com/%7Etedstryk/m3s5b.jpg It was produced via extreme processing of the original data to make a Mars-like scene, but I made it clear on my website it was only a speculative image. I strongly doubt if the raw data even shows Mars at all - it could be all noise. But since this mode of processing looked strangely Viking-like, I figured I would put it on the web. I was warned by several, who said that while fun, some kooks might take it seriously. My response was that I really don't care what kooks think. Then I noticed this web page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_2
They used the overprocessed image. I feel like it is being presented as a true photograph. This is of concern.


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
- tedstryk   Mars 3 (Various Topics Merged)   Dec 29 2004, 10:36 PM
- - vikingmars   Phil, As our "International" UMSF cartog...   Apr 12 2013, 12:21 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Darn it, my atlas is now out of date. According t...   Apr 12 2013, 03:39 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 12 2013, 05:39 P...   Apr 12 2013, 07:45 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 12 2013, 11:39 P...   Apr 13 2013, 03:22 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Geert @ Apr 12 2013, 08:22 PM) To ...   Apr 13 2013, 04:11 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Apr 13 2013, 10:11 AM...   Apr 13 2013, 06:17 PM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Apr 13 2013, 08:17 PM) ...   Apr 13 2013, 08:40 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Apr 14 2013, 01:17 AM) ...   Apr 14 2013, 07:48 AM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (Geert @ Apr 14 2013, 09:48 AM) Per...   Apr 14 2013, 12:13 PM
||- - vikingmars   QUOTE (TheAnt @ Apr 14 2013, 02:13 PM) Th...   Apr 14 2013, 02:45 PM
||- - TheAnt   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Apr 14 2013, 04:45 PM...   Apr 14 2013, 06:43 PM
|- - bobik   QUOTE (Geert @ Apr 14 2013, 08:48 AM) Per...   Apr 14 2013, 05:52 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (bobik @ Apr 14 2013, 09:52 AM) I d...   Apr 14 2013, 06:22 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (bobik @ Apr 15 2013, 12:52 AM) I d...   Apr 14 2013, 06:28 PM
|- - bobik   QUOTE (Geert @ Apr 14 2013, 06:28 PM) As ...   Apr 15 2013, 05:57 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (bobik @ Apr 16 2013, 01:57 AM) Mak...   Apr 16 2013, 12:51 PM
- - elakdawalla   Good thing you're working on a second book Z...   Apr 12 2013, 06:33 PM
- - tasp   Orientation of the items on the surface was as exp...   Apr 12 2013, 11:17 PM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (tasp @ Apr 12 2013, 06:17 PM) IIRC...   Apr 13 2013, 02:10 AM
|- - Explorer1   QUOTE (tasp @ Apr 12 2013, 04:17 PM) LOL,...   Apr 13 2013, 03:07 AM
- - vikingmars   Solving the Mars 6 landing mistery would be great ...   Apr 13 2013, 05:46 AM
|- - Zelenyikot   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Apr 13 2013, 04:42 A...   Apr 13 2013, 07:04 AM
|- - Bill Harris   QUOTE (Zelenyikot @ Apr 13 2013, 02:04 AM...   Apr 13 2013, 01:16 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Luna 9 had one camera, but Luna 13 had two - but o...   Apr 13 2013, 12:20 PM
- - akuo   It did work, unless the landing shock somehow disa...   Apr 13 2013, 01:41 PM
- - vikingmars   Phil, I know, you are drooling over the Mars 3 ima...   Apr 13 2013, 01:56 PM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Apr 13 2013, 03:56 PM...   Apr 13 2013, 02:23 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Thanks! Yes, it looks very good. Phil   Apr 13 2013, 02:37 PM
- - Bill Harris   QUOTE (Akuo)It did work, unless the landing shock....   Apr 13 2013, 06:17 PM
|- - akuo   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Apr 13 2013, 06:17 P...   Apr 13 2013, 07:40 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Mike said: "Given the changes in coordinate ...   Apr 13 2013, 06:49 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 13 2013, 11:49 A...   Apr 13 2013, 07:49 PM
- - Paolo   you can see some of the Mars-71 hardware and tests...   Apr 14 2013, 09:52 AM
- - nprev   Geert, that's by far the most cogent theoretic...   Apr 14 2013, 10:58 AM
- - Paolo   a similar cause has also been given for the loss o...   Apr 14 2013, 12:20 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (Paolo @ Apr 14 2013, 08:20 PM) a s...   Apr 14 2013, 03:30 PM
- - Explorer1   No more improbable than installing an acceleromete...   Apr 14 2013, 06:04 PM
- - Paolo   thinking about the foam shell that should have pro...   Apr 15 2013, 11:39 AM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (Paolo @ Apr 15 2013, 01:39 PM) thi...   Apr 15 2013, 11:59 AM
|- - Zelenyikot   QUOTE (Paolo @ Apr 15 2013, 12:39 PM) thi...   Apr 15 2013, 05:35 PM
- - Paolo   from all of the pictures and videos I have seen (s...   Apr 15 2013, 01:44 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (Paolo @ Apr 15 2013, 08:44 PM) fro...   Apr 15 2013, 02:50 PM
- - Mr Valiant   Dream come true. After '42' years, we...   Apr 15 2013, 01:47 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Mr Valiant @ Apr 15 2013, 06:47 AM...   Apr 15 2013, 02:13 PM
- - Mr Valiant   Oh, and on the durability of electronics when it c...   Apr 15 2013, 02:02 PM
- - Paolo   thanks. the find looks more and more intriguing   Apr 15 2013, 05:43 PM
- - dvandorn   Also, depending on the density of the foam used in...   Apr 15 2013, 05:50 PM
- - Decepticon   I hope there are plans for future pictures of the ...   Apr 16 2013, 07:53 AM
- - Zelenyikot   Zelenyikot and Mars 3 in museum of Lavochkin Resea...   Jun 26 2013, 04:28 PM
|- - Tom Dahl   That is a good clear photograph, thanks for postin...   Jun 26 2013, 07:34 PM
- - Zelenyikot   Yes, it is the full-scale model.   Jun 26 2013, 10:28 PM
- - Phil Stooke   The IAU has just named three craters (two very sma...   Aug 5 2013, 11:39 PM
- - alex_k   Hi everybody. I try to solve the puzzle of Mars 3...   Oct 16 2014, 03:01 PM
- - Phil Stooke   This was my interpretation: Phil   Oct 16 2014, 03:47 PM
|- - tedstryk   This is my interpretation, although this is from a...   Oct 16 2014, 11:05 PM
||- - alex_k   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Oct 17 2014, 04:05 AM) ...   Oct 17 2014, 06:03 AM
||- - 4th rock from the sun   Without knowing the image geometry (specially the ...   Oct 17 2014, 07:54 AM
||- - tedstryk   I'll have to dig. I worked with this one many...   Oct 17 2014, 10:23 AM
||- - alex_k   QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ Oct 17 2014, 1...   Oct 17 2014, 11:59 AM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Oct 16 2014, 08:47 P...   Oct 17 2014, 05:52 AM
- - alex_k   The second orbital image which I tried to locate i...   Oct 17 2014, 12:06 PM
- - Phil Stooke   OK, two points. First, there is absolutely no geo...   Oct 17 2014, 04:36 PM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   All that processing to the 2nd image only reveals ...   Oct 18 2014, 02:17 AM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Oct 17 2014, 09:36 P...   Oct 18 2014, 11:03 AM
- - machi   Alex_k: You are working with noise, your second ho...   Oct 18 2014, 01:04 PM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (machi @ Oct 18 2014, 06:04 PM) Ale...   Oct 18 2014, 01:43 PM
- - alex_k   About the lander's image. My attempt to recove...   Oct 18 2014, 02:05 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (alex_k @ Oct 18 2014, 04:05 PM) Ab...   Oct 18 2014, 03:21 PM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Oct 18 2014, 08:21 PM...   Oct 20 2014, 08:03 AM
|- - Geert   I would caution against trying to get too much out...   Oct 20 2014, 10:36 AM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (Geert @ Oct 20 2014, 03:36 PM) I w...   Oct 20 2014, 11:27 AM
- - Phil Stooke   I had posted my opinion about this somewhere here ...   Oct 18 2014, 09:27 PM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   Here's my take on the Mars 3 "mountains...   Oct 19 2014, 01:07 AM
||- - alex_k   QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ Oct 19 2014, 0...   Oct 20 2014, 07:50 AM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Oct 19 2014, 02:27 A...   Oct 20 2014, 07:51 AM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   QUOTE (alex_k @ Oct 20 2014, 08:51 AM) He...   Oct 20 2014, 04:46 PM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ Oct 20 2014, 0...   Oct 21 2014, 05:21 AM
- - Geert   It's completely useless info, but the original...   Oct 19 2014, 08:48 AM
- - alex_k   2. Fragments 2+4, rotated 180 deg. 3. Fragments...   Oct 21 2014, 05:26 AM
- - alex_k   Without noised 3rd layer we get also appropriate c...   Oct 21 2014, 05:34 AM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   Alex, can't really disagree (and I don't r...   Oct 21 2014, 02:29 PM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ Oct 21 2014, 0...   Oct 21 2014, 03:42 PM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   "We know only that it's Selivanov's e...   Oct 21 2014, 04:51 PM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   It would be interesting to reprocess this using mo...   Oct 21 2014, 08:23 PM
- - nprev   Bjorn's points are valid, particularly the fac...   Oct 22 2014, 12:29 AM
- - alex_k   Here is an attempt to get 12x superresolution of ...   Jan 3 2015, 04:24 PM
- - alex_k   [del] ADMIN NOTE: Attempting to get an image and ...   Jan 4 2015, 07:45 AM
- - alex_k   [del]   Dec 2 2016, 11:17 AM
- - alex_k   A recent article about processing Mars 3 signals (...   Mar 18 2024, 05:09 AM
3 Pages V  < 1 2 3 >


Reply to this topicStart new topic

 



RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 31st May 2024 - 09:06 PM
RULES AND GUIDELINES
Please read the Forum Rules and Guidelines before posting.

IMAGE COPYRIGHT
Images posted on UnmannedSpaceflight.com may be copyrighted. Do not reproduce without permission. Read here for further information on space images and copyright.

OPINIONS AND MODERATION
Opinions expressed on UnmannedSpaceflight.com are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of UnmannedSpaceflight.com or The Planetary Society. The all-volunteer UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderation team is wholly independent of The Planetary Society. The Planetary Society has no influence over decisions made by the UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderators.
SUPPORT THE FORUM
Unmannedspaceflight.com is funded by the Planetary Society. Please consider supporting our work and many other projects by donating to the Society or becoming a member.