Titan's changing lakes |
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Jan 29 2009, 07:22 PM
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Today's big news?
http://ciclops.org/view/5471/CASSINI_FINDS...ILL_TITAN_LAKES Changes in the south polar region were announced late last year. Is there more to this story now?? |
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Sep 1 2009, 01:54 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 29-December 05 From: NE Oh, USA Member No.: 627 |
All..
I found I had to outside the forum and go directly to the DPS 41st web page to get these abstracts... The one in question is in Session 21 Titan surface... I am copying the abstract here because others have had problems getting to this. Yes, ngunn a lot of juicy abstracts on this site .... "Title Further Constraints on the Smoothness of Ontario Lacus using Cassini RADAR Specular Reflection Data Author Block Lauren Wye1, H. A. Zebker1, R. D. Lorenz2, J. I. Lunine3, Cassini RADAR Team 1Stanford Univ., 2Johns Hopkins University, Applied Physics Lab, 3University of Arizona, Lunar and Planetary Lab. Abstract Cassini RADAR altimetry data collected on the 49th flyby of Titan (T49; 2008 December 21) over Ontario Lacus in Titan’s south polar region shows evidence for intense mirror-like specular reflections. Analysis of the strength of the specular return, which is expected to decline exponentially with increasing surface height variance, reveals that the surface is extremely smooth, with less than 3 mm rms surface height variation over the 100m-wide Fresnel zone (“Smoothness of Titan’s Ontario Lacus: Constraints from Cassini RADAR specular reflection data”, GRL 2009). The T49 echoes were stronger than expected, severely saturating the receiver and inhibiting an accurate estimation of the signal strength and, consequently, the rms surface height. While we developed a method to partially correct the echoes for the distortion incurred, our height estimate is only an upper limit. Further altimetry data over Ontario Lacus is expected in the T60 sequence on August 9th, 2009, where the receiver attenuation will be set high enough over the lake to avoid saturation, and quantization effects will also be minimized. In this presentation, we will report our latest estimates on the smoothness of Ontario Lacus’ surface and what they might suggest for limitations on the wind speeds or surface material characteristics. This work was conducted under contract with the Cassini Project and was partially supported by NASA headquarters under the NASA Earth and Space Science Fellowship Program. " Craig |
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ngunn Titan's changing lakes Jan 29 2009, 07:22 PM
ngunn Aah, there's this:
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/... Jan 29 2009, 07:32 PM
volcanopele Here are some the associated graphics:
http://pho... Jan 29 2009, 07:34 PM
volcanopele QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 29 2009, 12:22 PM) Cha... Jan 29 2009, 07:35 PM
ngunn That's brilliant, thanks VP. Jan 29 2009, 07:45 PM
Jason W Barnes I actually much prefer that these press releases c... Jan 29 2009, 09:11 PM
ngunn QUOTE (Jason W Barnes @ Jan 29 2009, 09:1... Jan 30 2009, 02:14 AM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 29 2009, 08:14 PM) Whi... Jan 30 2009, 05:33 PM
ngunn That is indeed most helpful. Although I'm stil... Jan 30 2009, 08:16 PM
rlorenz QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 30 2009, 03:16 PM) Wha... Feb 4 2009, 03:36 PM
Decepticon Does anyone have a radar swath overlay-ed of the s... Feb 2 2009, 10:57 AM
titanicrivers QUOTE (Decepticon @ Feb 2 2009, 04:57 AM)... Feb 2 2009, 03:15 PM
ngunn Excellent!! Feb 4 2009, 09:11 PM
nprev Oh, goodygoodygoody...Santa Ralph hints that a bit... Feb 5 2009, 12:37 AM
Juramike Bam! There it is!
Lorenz et al. LPSC (2... Feb 7 2009, 04:48 PM
ngunn Brilliant discovery - brilliant paper title!
... Feb 7 2009, 07:20 PM
rlorenz QUOTE (ngunn @ Feb 7 2009, 02:20 PM) Bril... Feb 9 2009, 06:22 PM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (rlorenz @ Feb 9 2009, 12:22 PM) Bu... Feb 10 2009, 01:52 AM
ngunn Taking this together with earlier VIMS results, ma... Feb 8 2009, 08:37 AM
nprev Hmm. Sorry to hear that, Ralph; it was indeed a gr... Feb 9 2009, 07:57 PM
ngunn Or perhaps other 'disadvantaged' topics we... Feb 9 2009, 09:15 PM
rlorenz QUOTE (ngunn @ Feb 9 2009, 04:15 PM) Perh... Feb 15 2009, 04:21 AM
ngunn Great - another potentially variable lake property... Feb 15 2009, 07:51 PM
Jason W Barnes VIMS Ontario Lacus paper is now out in print from ... Apr 10 2009, 11:32 PM
ngunn A huge thank you (again) for making another fascin... Apr 11 2009, 07:26 AM
titanicrivers As above. A very readable and yet compelling pape... Apr 11 2009, 12:28 PM
ngunn Is anybody going to have a go at matching the alti... Apr 11 2009, 10:04 PM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (ngunn @ Apr 11 2009, 03:04 PM) Is ... Apr 12 2009, 06:25 PM
HughFromAlice The variation in the height of the surface of Onta... Aug 23 2009, 06:08 AM
Gsnorgathon Hey! I got lucky and got the whole article. (D... Aug 23 2009, 05:29 PM
rlorenz QUOTE (HughFromAlice @ Aug 23 2009, 01:08... Aug 23 2009, 06:26 PM
djellison QUOTE (rlorenz @ Aug 23 2009, 07:26 PM) F... Aug 24 2009, 08:01 AM
nprev It's a fascinating result, Ralph, and clearly ... Aug 23 2009, 09:08 PM
AndyG Reading this made me think of the artwork by Richa... Aug 24 2009, 08:26 AM
ngunn BIG changes observed at Ontario Lacus in the 4th a... Sep 1 2009, 11:24 AM
titanicrivers QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 1 2009, 05:24 AM) BIG ... Sep 1 2009, 12:40 PM
Hungry4info QUOTE (titanicrivers @ Sep 1 2009, 06:40 ... Sep 1 2009, 01:15 PM
ngunn Strange, it works for me OK, although it does invo... Sep 1 2009, 01:34 PM
titanicrivers QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 1 2009, 07:34 AM) Stra... Sep 1 2009, 05:20 PM
HughFromAlice QUOTE (titanicrivers @ Sep 2 2009, 02:50 ... Sep 1 2009, 11:30 PM
belleraphon1 And, of course, I copy the wrong abstract... sorry... Sep 1 2009, 01:57 PM
remcook How well do the ISS and RADAR 'shorelines... Sep 1 2009, 02:36 PM
ngunn I have to admit I'm baffled by the numbers rig... Sep 1 2009, 03:09 PM
Sunspot So when will us common folk get to see the T57/T58... Sep 1 2009, 03:40 PM
ngunn I've edited my previous post 42 to correct a n... Sep 1 2009, 06:18 PM
volcanopele Well, hopefully they will broadcast the oral sessi... Sep 1 2009, 11:34 PM
ngunn This presentation will compare apparent shorelines... Sep 3 2009, 11:12 AM
Olvegg NASA Cassini Radar Observes Seasonal Change in Tit... Oct 7 2009, 06:11 PM
titanicrivers QUOTE (Olvegg @ Oct 7 2009, 01:11 PM) NAS... Oct 8 2009, 03:32 AM
ngunn Spectacular changes - and so plain to see! (No... Oct 7 2009, 08:38 PM
ngunn I am trying to post the VIMS image of the bottom r... Oct 7 2009, 09:50 PM
volcanopele I think the ISS/VIMS/RADAR story is coming along n... Oct 7 2009, 10:02 PM
Webscientist QUOTE (volcanopele @ Oct 8 2009, 12:02 AM... Oct 8 2009, 08:54 PM
ngunn Link from remcook:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/s... Oct 7 2009, 10:28 PM
volcanopele I guess my comment is that I think they have it ba... Oct 7 2009, 11:58 PM
Sunspot How wide is thay channel where it appears to open ... Oct 8 2009, 07:53 AM
volcanopele The landing site might depend on the season when t... Oct 8 2009, 09:03 PM
nprev Hmm. It does seem as if the 'desert' equat... Oct 8 2009, 09:13 PM
ngunn QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 8 2009, 10:13 PM) Huyg... Oct 8 2009, 09:53 PM
volcanopele Yeah, and storms are not unheard of at the latitud... Oct 8 2009, 09:18 PM
nprev Gotcha. I'm definitely thinking flash floods a... Oct 8 2009, 09:36 PM
djellison Some posts have been removed from this thread, as ... Oct 9 2009, 04:33 PM
titanicrivers Check out Photojournal http://photojournal.jpl.nas... Oct 10 2009, 03:01 PM
ngunn VIMS sees specular reflection from Kraken Mare:
Q... Oct 25 2009, 09:48 PM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (ngunn @ Oct 25 2009, 02:48 PM) On ... Oct 26 2009, 02:00 PM
ngunn And there's so much more - here:
(struggling ... Oct 25 2009, 10:50 PM
ngunn Personal anecdote: perhaps not many people remembe... Oct 26 2009, 12:01 AM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (ngunn @ Oct 25 2009, 05:01 PM) The... Oct 26 2009, 05:32 PM
rlorenz QUOTE (Jason W Barnes @ Oct 26 2009, 01:3... Nov 1 2009, 03:11 PM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (rlorenz @ Nov 1 2009, 08:11 AM) As... Nov 2 2009, 06:54 PM
rlorenz QUOTE (Jason W Barnes @ Nov 2 2009, 01:54... Nov 6 2009, 08:58 PM
volcanopele QUOTE (rlorenz @ Nov 6 2009, 01:58 PM) Wo... Nov 6 2009, 09:26 PM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (rlorenz @ Nov 6 2009, 01:58 PM) Hm... Nov 7 2009, 05:54 AM
ngunn Another morsel from the conference abstracts. Any... Oct 26 2009, 01:34 PM
ngunn Catching the lakeshine:
Radar 21st December ... Oct 26 2009, 02:33 PM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (ngunn @ Oct 26 2009, 07:33 AM) Cat... Oct 26 2009, 02:46 PM
ngunn Yeah, you caught the sun's direct reflection a... Oct 26 2009, 03:04 PM
ngunn Thanks, Jason. Congrats to the team and good luck ... Oct 27 2009, 12:41 PM
ngunn Excuse a very basic question: would that be one pi... Nov 1 2009, 07:25 PM
Juramike QUOTE (ngunn @ Nov 1 2009, 02:25 PM) Excu... Nov 1 2009, 08:05 PM

ngunn QUOTE (Juramike @ Nov 1 2009, 08:05 PM) a... Nov 1 2009, 09:17 PM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (ngunn @ Nov 1 2009, 12:25 PM) Excu... Nov 2 2009, 06:56 PM
ngunn Article on seasonal and longer term change:
http:/... Nov 30 2009, 10:53 AM
volcanopele We shall see. I still think its seasonal. Nov 30 2009, 05:17 PM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (volcanopele @ Nov 30 2009, 10:17 A... Nov 30 2009, 05:37 PM
volcanopele Where are the south polar dry lakes? What do you ... Nov 30 2009, 05:53 PM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (volcanopele @ Nov 30 2009, 10:53 A... Nov 30 2009, 07:05 PM
ngunn QUOTE (Jason W Barnes @ Nov 30 2009, 07:0... Nov 30 2009, 09:06 PM

Juramike QUOTE (ngunn @ Nov 30 2009, 04:06 PM) Of ... Nov 30 2009, 09:54 PM
rlorenz QUOTE (Jason W Barnes @ Nov 30 2009, 02:0... Dec 1 2009, 11:23 PM
Jason W Barnes QUOTE (rlorenz @ Dec 1 2009, 04:23 PM) Ti... Dec 2 2009, 05:54 PM
ngunn I don't have access to the full paper, but fro... Nov 30 2009, 06:00 PM
Juramike I really, really, like the idea of the longer term... Nov 30 2009, 07:51 PM
ngunn I've been checking authors' websites, but ... Nov 30 2009, 08:32 PM
volcanopele Very nice article! Thanks for the link. Thou... Nov 30 2009, 08:50 PM
Juramike QUOTE (volcanopele @ Nov 30 2009, 03:50 P... Nov 30 2009, 09:46 PM
ngunn Yes. And if the lakes 'breathe' into and o... Nov 30 2009, 10:27 PM
remcook So, what is new in this paper? The speculation abo... Dec 2 2009, 08:35 AM![]() ![]() |
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