My Assistant
![]() ![]() |
Mars Seasons (Earth equivalent dates), Is this right so? |
Feb 2 2009, 01:50 PM
Post
#1
|
|
|
Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 11-April 08 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 4093 |
I tried to include some information on the current season of Mars into my realtime simulations (Mars clocks). Now one way of doing so that I can think of (but haven't really seen it around) is to calculate Earth equivalent dates for Mars, such that summer solstices are always on the "21-Jun" etc. Naturally these "days" (based on orbit around Sun rather than rotation of Mars) last about twice as long as on Earth (more precisely: 686.9 / 365.25 times as long). Using the only solstice I know (summer solstice 25 Jun 2008 ... Phoenix was there), this approach says that it would be 23 October on Mars now. Does that make sense? Is that useful?
-------------------- |
|
|
|
Feb 2 2009, 02:23 PM
Post
#2
|
|
![]() Dublin Correspondent ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 1799 Joined: 28-March 05 From: Celbridge, Ireland Member No.: 220 |
The general idea makes sense to me and I think it would give folks who aren't familiar with the Martian seasons and LS numbers a better gut feeling for where things are in terms of the Martian year. One small point to make is that there is a Northern Hemisphere bias in your comment - obviously although it was the summer solstice for Phoenix at the time it was also the Winter solstice for Spirit and Opportunity as both are in the SH. It has to be biased one way or the other and the Northern Hemisphere is the default but having spent a lot of time in the SH here on Earth myself I can't help but point out that not everyone automatically associates "January" with winter and July with "summer".
|
|
|
|
Feb 5 2009, 12:49 AM
Post
#3
|
|
![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
Also, Mars' elliptical orbit means that some seasons last much much longer than others. I have a page on the topic of Mars' calendar here. In brief, Mars' northern hemisphere spring is 194 days long; summer, 178; autumn, 142; and winter, 154. So there's some slosh of dates within the calendar. I'd take Earth calendar dates and turn them into solar longitudes, then convert from that based on Mars Ls to Mars dates.
My 2c. --Emily -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
|
|
|
|
Feb 5 2009, 01:39 AM
Post
#4
|
|
|
Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 11-April 08 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 4093 |
Ah never too old to learn something new
-------------------- |
|
|
|
Feb 13 2009, 02:45 PM
Post
#5
|
|
|
Junior Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 50 Joined: 16-January 06 Member No.: 646 |
Also, Mars' elliptical orbit means that some seasons last much much longer than others. I have a page on the topic of Mars' calendar here. In brief, Mars' northern hemisphere spring is 194 days long; summer, 178; autumn, 142; and winter, 154. So there's some slosh of dates within the calendar. I'd take Earth calendar dates and turn them into solar longitudes, then convert from that based on Mars Ls to Mars dates. My 2c. --Emily In order to compare observations from different "Mars years", one can adopt a system similar to that used in some recent atmospheric research. A web-calculator may be found at: http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/time/martian_time.html The zero-point of such a system is obviously somewhat arbitrary. Using the convention of Clancy et al. (2000) and the NAIF files -- naif0008.tls, de421.bsp, pck00008.tpc -- Mars year 1 begins at 1955-04-11 10:43:58.223 (to single precision floating point for Ls=0). I have attached a file with the MY and Ls for each day at 0h00 UTC since Jan 1, 1955. Note that this includes a "year 0" as an artifact for the period prior to the beginning of year 1. I have been told that this is not a valid convention, but since I hadn't envisioned referencing observations from this period, I haven't fixed my script (yet).
Attached File(s)
|
|
|
|
![]() ![]() |
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 26th October 2024 - 12:21 AM |
|
RULES AND GUIDELINES Please read the Forum Rules and Guidelines before posting. IMAGE COPYRIGHT |
OPINIONS AND MODERATION Opinions expressed on UnmannedSpaceflight.com are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of UnmannedSpaceflight.com or The Planetary Society. The all-volunteer UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderation team is wholly independent of The Planetary Society. The Planetary Society has no influence over decisions made by the UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderators. |
SUPPORT THE FORUM Unmannedspaceflight.com is funded by the Planetary Society. Please consider supporting our work and many other projects by donating to the Society or becoming a member. |
|