The West Valley Route |
The West Valley Route |
Apr 9 2009, 12:42 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
I'm telling the Sierra Club about you, Dan'l! Bashing up our wilderness areas like that.
Back OT, Didn't the MER mappers produce a nice topographic map of the Home Plate area a year or two ago. I don't think it included the Von Braun region, but I could be wrong. How about it, Paolo? Have you drivers got definite numbers to guide our approach? -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Apr 9 2009, 06:33 AM
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Member Group: Admin Posts: 976 Joined: 29-September 06 From: Pasadena, CA - USA Member No.: 1200 |
... Back OT, Didn't the MER mappers produce a nice topographic map of the Home Plate area a year or two ago. I don't think it included the Von Braun region, but I could be wrong. How about it, Paolo? Have you drivers got definite numbers to guide our approach? We have the NAVCAM panoramas that were captured along the route from the south valley to WH3. We also have the nice DEM from USGS (publicly available) to guide us through. Unfortunately we do not have surface imagery near Goddard and Von Braun. HiRISE is an incredibly useful tool, but Spirit obstacles (small rocks, sand traps etc..) cannot realy be seen from orbit, so we really have to have surface imaging. The next few drives will be challenging, but there will be more difficult terrain ahead of us. I was not part of the driving team during this drive but if I can read between the lines (tracks?) I believe they gave priority to maintaining elevation. One thing we have learned: Spirit has quite a bit of difficulty in climbing, so once you lost elevation you will have to pay a high price to get it back. Regarding spiraling around VB, I don't think that would work. The rover would make progress sure but the side slip would not allow the rover to gain elevation. The slopes around VB are quite steep. But first let's try to get there. Keep your eyes on the road. Paolo -------------------- Disclaimer: all opinions, ideas and information included here are my own,and should not be intended to represent opinion or policy of my employer.
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Apr 9 2009, 07:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
So, maybe what we are seeing is an attempt to circumnav the sand patch by the left (east) side, almost touching HP's slope?
> I believe they gave priority to maintaining elevation. The mobility info from previous drives tells the rover is now around 70-80cm higher than before the move. |
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Apr 9 2009, 11:25 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 236 Joined: 5-June 08 From: Udon Thani Member No.: 4185 |
The mobility info from previous drives tells the rover is now around 70-80cm higher than before the move. If you look at the very useful projection from Astro0 here it looks to me like if you continue hugging the site of homeplate (which indeed seems the most logical thing to do) you will end up at a quite nasty sudden rocky patch (hidden from view from the present navcams as it slopes down at bit?) which does not look very good. To avoid it you would need to turn downslope a bit, but the sand over there looks even worse.. It seems almost impossible to get much drive-info from HiRISE, no matter how wonderful its resolution but you need to pancam and navcam images to make sense of what you are looking at. |
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Apr 9 2009, 11:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
you will end up at a quite nasty sudden rocky patch (hidden from view from the present navcams as it slopes down at bit?) which does not look very good. It doesn't look that bad to me - and being downhill, it shouldn't be a problem for Spirit to cross IMO. -------------------- |
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Apr 9 2009, 03:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4252 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
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Apr 9 2009, 04:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2922 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
The mobility info from previous drives tells the rover is now around 70-80cm higher than before the move. Do you know if this is the altitude difference between start and end of drive or the positive total taking in account ups and downs during the drive (like the odometry)? -------------------- |
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Apr 9 2009, 05:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
The former.
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Apr 9 2009, 07:50 PM
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Member Group: Admin Posts: 976 Joined: 29-September 06 From: Pasadena, CA - USA Member No.: 1200 |
Do you know if this is the altitude difference between start and end of drive or the positive total taking in account ups and downs during the drive (like the odometry)? If I understand the question correctly, the rover position and attitude are integrated over time. That is, the rover propagates the commanded motion by using the IMU data to determine istantaneously the rover position and attitude. Whenever we use Visual Odometry, this would affect the position only, not the attitude. The IMU is much more accurate than VO. Paolo -------------------- Disclaimer: all opinions, ideas and information included here are my own,and should not be intended to represent opinion or policy of my employer.
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Apr 10 2009, 08:47 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: 22-September 08 From: Spain Member No.: 4350 |
Von Braun seems to have a quite aerodynamic shape. Maybe the airflow could be modelled to hunt for cleaning events.
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Apr 10 2009, 10:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
I see a color pancam mosaic (named "Home Plate survey") in the plans for the following sols, meaning that we will spend the Easter stopped here. And speaking about cleaning events, I'm wondering if this stop may be related to an attempt to find some breeze flowing here.
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Apr 10 2009, 01:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 530 Joined: 21-March 06 From: Canada Member No.: 721 |
Or they just want the Easter long weekend off. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Apr 10 2009, 03:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4252 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
Thanks for the info, Tesheiner. So this is another reason to drive close to the side of HP. Let's hope for a spectacular pan...
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Apr 10 2009, 08:33 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Little off-topic, sorry, but this is set at Spirit's current location, and I honestly can't think where else to put it...
"Rover Hugger" (fiction) -------------------- |
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Apr 11 2009, 01:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
I see a color pancam mosaic (named "Home Plate survey") in the plans for the following sols, meaning that we will spend the Easter stopped here. ... That is like music to my ears. I've been eagerly watching each drive up the West Valley, hoping for a nice view of the stratigraphy on this side of Home Plate. I was beginning to wonder if they would ever let us see it. I suppose the limited power may be part of the reason there were not HP images each step of the way. Regardless of the reason, I am anxiously anticipating a nice pancam panorama from the current position. -------------------- ...Tom
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