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Taking Bets, Where will it land?
volcanopele
post Jan 12 2005, 09:45 PM
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With just a couple more days to go until Huygens reaches Titan, I'd thought I would gauge your thoughts on what kind of terrain you think Huygens will land in. My guess would be cryovolcanic plains covered in goo.

Edit: I meant you, not they. What do YOU think Huygens will land in?


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post Jan 12 2005, 09:53 PM
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What will it look like? Here is an art contest of the planetary society:
http://planetary.org/saturn/artcontest.html

Personally I think this one is closest to my imagination:
http://planetary.org/saturn/contest/artur_rataj.html

Namely, a almost featureless plain of icy fluff. Maybe with some dark splotches here and there.
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post Jan 12 2005, 09:57 PM
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I'm thinking the terrain will be mostly covered with tholin. Underneath, the surface would look kind of like Ganymede with grooves. We might see some areas with ice sticking out in high places along with a small lake or two of methane or ethane.

The lighting would be a little dark, but not so dark the lamp would be needed to take visible light pictures.

During its descent, Huygens will also encounter some fairly strong winds.

It will probably land on a solid surface covered with tholin.
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post Jan 12 2005, 10:32 PM
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Here are my favorites, both in terms of accuracy {IMHO} and my personal taste in art. For space art, I don't like impressionism, post-modern, or other "junk" art forms.

http://planetary.org/saturn/contest/rodrigo_belote.html
http://planetary.org/saturn/contest/bryce_jacobs.html biggrin.gif
http://planetary.org/saturn/contest/frank_hettick.html

Why do people insist on showing Saturn's rings????


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post Jan 12 2005, 11:33 PM
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Volcano, that first picture is NOT very accurate... Titan is in the same plane as the rings so you can never see the rings at such an angle. ( But hey, it's Art right? laugh.gif )
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post Jan 12 2005, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE (ObsessedWithWorlds @ Jan 12 2005, 04:33 PM)
Volcano, that first picture is NOT very accurate... Titan is in the same plane as the rings so you can never see the rings at such an angle. ( But hey, it's Art right? laugh.gif )

I agree. Thus my complaint in my post biggrin.gif


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post Jan 12 2005, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jan 12 2005, 10:32 PM)
Why do people insist on showing Saturn's rings????

Because without the rings it just doesn't look like Saturn.
I understand that Saturn's rings would be edge-on and not visible but isn't Saturn below the horizon from Huygen's landing site?
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post Jan 12 2005, 11:47 PM
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I say something quite hard and icey - but with regions of sludge locally

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post Jan 12 2005, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE (alan @ Jan 12 2005, 04:44 PM)
QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jan 12 2005, 10:32 PM)

Why do people insist on showing Saturn's rings????

Because without the rings it just doesn't look like Saturn.
I understand that Saturn's rings would be edge-on and not visible but isn't Saturn below the horizon from Huygen's landing site?

LOL!!!!! Yep, it would be below the horizon. The Huygens landing site is almost smack-dab in the middle of the anti-Saturnian hemisphere biggrin.gif


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post Jan 13 2005, 01:52 AM
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Woohoo!!! I got a DISR team member to "adopt" me for a day so I can look at DISR images on Friday. Of course I am supposed to get this person soda and coffee when they need it, but otherwise biggrin.gif


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post Jan 13 2005, 02:35 AM
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Whoa, are you ever a lucky guy!!!!

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post Jan 13 2005, 06:18 AM
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My predictions:

Only the final set of images will show detail of landforms...the earlier sets will be little but haze.

Icy surface with some rocks sticking out. No liquid.

Lander will fail on contact with ground.
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post Jan 13 2005, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE (gpurcell @ Jan 13 2005, 06:18 AM)
Only the final set of images will show detail of landforms...the earlier sets will be little but haze.
Icy surface with some rocks sticking out. No liquid.
Lander will fail on contact with ground.

That's the spirit...! dry.gif

I think it should be the other way around. Only the high altitude images will show detail and the final set wil show a smooth surface without details. Much like a snowcovered landscape.
As for the landing, I doubt it will be a solid CLUNK. After billions of years of organic goo blowing around there must be SOME layer of soft stuff on the surface.
Contact lost after touchdown? Maybe, but only because it sinks in the dust... smile.gif
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post Jan 13 2005, 09:07 AM
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After billions of years of organic goo ( well, people and spiders and bacteria and fish and plankton and penguins and rhinos and turtles and birds and things ) - you could say the same about earth - yet land on the Derbyshire Dales and it'd be a hard clunk smile.gif

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post Jan 13 2005, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 13 2005, 09:07 AM)
After billions of years of organic goo ( well, people and spiders and bacteria and fish and plankton and penguins and rhinos and turtles and birds and things ) - you could say the same about earth - yet land on the Derbyshire Dales and it'd be a hard clunk smile.gif

Point taken. But then the Earth didn't have a global smog layer worse than the most polluted city for over 4 billion years... cool.gif
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