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Huygens - The Follow-up
SFJCody
post Jan 15 2005, 03:37 PM
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Is a Discovery class Titan lander/aerobot remotely conceivable?

It would be nice to see Cassini's relay capability get a second workout...
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Rob Pinnegar
post Jan 16 2007, 02:24 PM
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Regarding the idea of a Huygens follow-up:

I suppose that, if we really wanted to go all-out, we could go for double mission: a rover with a detachable balloon tethered to it. This would reduce the odds of complete mission failure:

(1) If the balloon malfunctions during the initial landing, ditch it and send out the rover.

(2) If the rover doesn't survive the landing, cut the balloon loose so that it can independently explore Titan.

(3) Otherwise, leave the balloon tethered to the rover to act as a high-tech "crow's nest" to help the science team choose targets.

Since the rover has moving parts, it will likely break down first. Once that happens:

(3a) If the rover's wheels lose power while its science instruments are still functioning, put the rover in neutral and let the balloon act as a sail to drag it along the surface.

(3b) If the rover stops working completely while the balloon is still functioning, cut the balloon loose, and let it go on its merry way.

Actually, now that I think of it, this would really be a triple mission: the tether itself might also be useful for scientific purposes. Some thermistors could be woven into it to get vertical temperature profiles and, after the balloon was cut loose, the tether could be left hanging to give some idea of wind shear effects. Maybe also with some piezoelectric crystals to measure wind pressure?

There are two major caveats to this plan (besides the fact that it is wildly speculative and, in all likelihood, completely unfeasible from both economic and engineering standpoints):

(1) The rover had better be a lot heavier than the balloon. Otherwise the rover might get tipped over if the wind picks up. This might make option (3a) above impossible.

(2) There had better not be any lightning on Titan.
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- SFJCody   Huygens - The Follow-up   Jan 15 2005, 03:37 PM
- - gpurcell   DISCOVERY class??? No way in Hell.   Jan 15 2005, 05:50 PM
- - tedstryk   Not unless it was piggyback on some larger mission...   Jan 15 2005, 06:19 PM
- - lyford   Unless you meant this Discovery class: Sweet...   Jan 15 2005, 07:24 PM
- - SFJCody   Perhaps China or India will become convinced that ...   Jan 15 2005, 09:06 PM
- - djellison   I certainly think a blimp or similar would be a wi...   Jan 15 2005, 09:18 PM
- - tedstryk   India and China in 30 years maybe, but right now t...   Jan 15 2005, 09:44 PM
- - David   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 15 2005, 09:18 PM)I ce...   Jan 15 2005, 09:46 PM
- - djellison   Well - I was thinking a balloon - not a powered bl...   Jan 15 2005, 09:55 PM
- - SFJCody   The Titan helicopter Post-Cassini Exploration of...   Jan 15 2005, 10:11 PM
- - lyford   What about a fleet of these? You would need an o...   Jan 15 2005, 10:25 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   There has already been a great deal of design work...   Jan 16 2005, 02:36 AM
- - tedstryk   And indeed it should, after a few more icy satelli...   Jan 16 2005, 02:56 AM
- - SFJCody   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 16 2005, 02:36 AM)Bu...   Jan 16 2005, 03:21 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   First, the number of "shitheads" who thi...   Jan 16 2005, 04:15 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   One additional note: one of the Galileo mission...   Jan 16 2005, 04:22 AM
- - David   Well, I certainly don't want to say anything a...   Jan 16 2005, 04:30 AM
- - Mongo   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 16 2005, 04:15 AM).....   Jan 16 2005, 04:49 AM
|- - ustrax   "The Huygens Atmosphere Structure Instrument ...   Jan 12 2007, 05:12 PM
- - nprev   Hmm...the argon-40 ratio seems to indicate current...   Jan 12 2007, 05:23 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 12 2007, 05:23 PM) Hmm...   Jan 12 2007, 05:53 PM
- - nprev   If you think it's appropriate, then by all mea...   Jan 12 2007, 06:14 PM
|- - JRehling   I'm not sure the Argon 40 indicates current ac...   Jan 12 2007, 07:15 PM
- - edstrick   Argon 40 is a radioactive decay product of Potassi...   Jan 13 2007, 12:57 PM
- - nprev   Thanks for the great explanation (as usual! )...   Jan 13 2007, 06:31 PM
- - edstrick   Regarding Argon and soviet mars probes, as I recal...   Jan 14 2007, 10:53 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (edstrick @ Jan 14 2007, 02:53 AM) ...   Jan 14 2007, 05:18 PM
- - edstrick   As I recall from press release stuff last year, Hu...   Jan 14 2007, 11:20 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (edstrick @ Jan 14 2007, 03:20 AM) ...   Jan 15 2007, 12:49 PM
- - MarsIsImportant   Just a clarification...The actual numbers for Mars...   Jan 15 2007, 02:47 AM
- - edstrick   "Viking measured the % amount of carbon dioxi...   Jan 15 2007, 11:48 AM
- - JRehling   QUOTE (SFJCody @ Jan 15 2005, 07:37 AM) I...   Jan 15 2007, 09:43 PM
- - nprev   That's a glum but probably quite accurate asse...   Jan 15 2007, 10:29 PM
- - Rob Pinnegar   Regarding the idea of a Huygens follow-up: I sup...   Jan 16 2007, 02:24 PM


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