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First Glimpse
SFJCody
post Jan 17 2005, 12:06 AM
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Luna, Feb 3 1966


Luna 9 image first published by the Daily Express.

Mars, December 2 1971


Mars 3 fragment.

Venus, October 22 1975


The single Venera 9 pan.

Titan, January 14 2005


As seen by the DISR Side-Looking Imager.

[Mars 3 and Venera 9 images enhanced by Ted Stryk]

We await the arrivals of Hayabusa at asteroid (25143) Itokawa and Rosetta's Philae lander at comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko. Bepi Colombo's Mercury Surface Element has been cancelled.
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post Jan 17 2005, 02:55 PM
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I still dont consider NEAR to be views from a landing site. It's just not what it is. The view straight down from 20 metres altitude is little different to zooming in from 20,000 miles. There is a discreet and quantifiable difference between an orbit that just happened to intesect the surface and end - and landing. If you consider NEAR views from the surface of another planet - then so were the imacting lunar probes of the early 60's.

There's a very distinct line in my mind between taking photographs (however clear) and then landing - and landing, then taking a photograph. Landing must come before picture - if you are to take photographs of 'a place' - otherwise, you are taking pictures for a map. Yes - Near was the first landing on a small body - but it could not and did not take pictures from the surface of a small body.

Pictures from the surface of the Moon, Mars, Venus and Titan have been taken - but not an asteroid yet. Ditto - Deep Impact's impactor probe will not be taking pictures from the surface of a comet. Pictures from very close - but not FROm the surface - and to be honest, I see no difference between that, and NEAR - even though NEAR survived the landing.

You can reproject MGS imagery to make it feel like you've landed in 100,000 different places - that doesnt make it 100,000 landers smile.gif Nor does reprojecting NEAR imagery - however cool and pretty it is - make it one lander.

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- SFJCody   First Glimpse   Jan 17 2005, 12:06 AM
- - lyford   Would this one count? NEAR on Eros Not technical...   Jan 17 2005, 12:34 AM
- - SFJCody   I'm going to be picky and exclude that one. An...   Jan 17 2005, 12:38 AM
- - tedstryk   Well, actually, NEAR did land but was unable to ta...   Jan 17 2005, 01:28 AM
- - lyford   Do I have to delete the picture now?   Jan 17 2005, 01:35 AM
- - SFJCody   OK, I relent, the NEAR images are in.   Jan 17 2005, 01:37 AM
- - tedstryk   Don Davis did a great reconstruction of a surface ...   Jan 17 2005, 01:41 AM
- - volcanopele   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jan 16 2005, 06:28 PM)Well,...   Jan 17 2005, 02:48 AM
- - tedstryk   http://www.rleggat.com/photohistory/history/niepce...   Jan 17 2005, 03:06 AM
- - tedstryk   I just heard from Don Davis and he has graciously ...   Jan 17 2005, 03:10 AM
- - DDAVIS   Here is an attempt to darken and desaturate the Ti...   Jan 17 2005, 04:23 AM
- - djellison   QUOTE (SFJCody @ Jan 17 2005, 01:37 AM)OK, I ...   Jan 17 2005, 08:30 AM
- - tedstryk   Yes, but it does give on the feeling of being ther...   Jan 17 2005, 02:06 PM
- - djellison   I still dont consider NEAR to be views from a land...   Jan 17 2005, 02:55 PM
- - tedstryk   Still, there is something about seeing a world on ...   Jan 17 2005, 03:39 PM
- - djellison   MRO will be doing that, and arguably, MOC has alre...   Jan 17 2005, 03:40 PM
- - tedstryk   For Mars and the moon yes, but views like MOC retu...   Jan 17 2005, 04:14 PM
- - djellison   I think the thing I'm trying to split is pictu...   Jan 17 2005, 04:35 PM
- - lyford   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 17 2005, 06:55 AM)Ther...   Jan 17 2005, 04:41 PM
- - tedstryk   I they are two different types of accomplishments....   Jan 17 2005, 05:24 PM
- - OWW   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jan 17 2005, 05:24 PM)I the...   Jan 17 2005, 07:23 PM
- - tedstryk   Hayabusa release a "hopper" (built to re...   Jan 17 2005, 07:46 PM
- - SFJCody   Soft-landers that returned image[s] from the surfa...   Jan 17 2005, 09:55 PM
- - OWW   Should the Mars 3 image really be included? I thou...   Jan 17 2005, 10:21 PM
- - tedstryk   Although by Doug's criterion, that picture doe...   Jan 17 2005, 10:36 PM


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