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Jul 3 2009, 09:27 PM
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We're now just one Mercury year (88 days) from flyby #3, which happens on September 29, 2009, so this seems like a good time to start a thread about it.
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/index.php For comparison purposes, it'd be nice if someone (probably someone on the Messenger team) put together a Mercury Map showing what areas will get better coverage from this flyby than from the previous ones. I realize it'll be very similar to flyby #1, but it won't be exactly the same. After that, it's a long wait until MOI on March 18, 2011. Curiously, that's the same date the New Horizons crosses the orbit of Uranus. http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/mission/passingpla...ets_current.php --Greg |
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Sep 15 2009, 04:01 PM
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In the related link, showing the simulated position of Messenger relative to Mercury and the sun
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/whereis/index.php#current_orbit Messenger seems to be cruising almost "parallel" with the planet while approaching from the night side. It's hard to tell the relative sizes of things from the sim diagrams, but in the fourth picture it looks like even now the planet is directly between the spacecraft and the sun. I'd be curious to know - about how much total time will the spacecraft be spending in Mercury's eclipse during this approach? |
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Sep 16 2009, 12:14 AM
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Messenger seems to be cruising almost "parallel" with the planet while approaching from the night side. Yes MESSENGER is cruising more or less directly behind Mercury at the moment (as seen from the Sun). See also the sim images on my site http://www.dmuller.net/messenger (apologies for the "advertisement"), in particular how close the Sun and Mercury are as seen from MESSENGER and the all-dark Mercury enlargement. That can also be seen on the solar system maps on my site: http://www.dmuller.net/realtime/map.php?mt=aboveinner and http://www.dmuller.net/realtime/map.php?mt=eclipticinner. You can also see that the relative speed between MESSENGER and Mercury is now down to less than 22,000km/h. Still too much for an orbit insertion burn, hence this is a flyby and not (yet) the orbit capture. Mercury will move to the right of the Sun as seen from MESSENGER. View from above and over time (sorry didnt have the time to make an animated gif): 16Sep: http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?t...=1&showsc=1 19Sep: http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?t...=1&showsc=1 22Sep: http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?t...=1&showsc=1 25Sep: http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?t...=1&showsc=1 28Sep: http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?t...=1&showsc=1 Flyby: http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?t...=1&showsc=1 -------------------- |
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Greg Hullender Mercury Flyby 3 Jul 3 2009, 09:27 PM
Phil Stooke From a global point of view I don't think ther... Jul 3 2009, 10:09 PM
Greg Hullender Yes, I understand that. I was hoping someone migh... Jul 4 2009, 04:33 AM
Phil Stooke There's no public information on coverage yet,... Jul 4 2009, 11:04 AM
MarkG It will also be interesting if any stereo-pair fra... Jul 8 2009, 11:32 PM
Vultur Probably a dumb question, but what are Vulcanoids ... Jul 9 2009, 02:49 PM
MarkG QUOTE (Vultur @ Jul 9 2009, 06:49 AM) Pro... Jul 12 2009, 04:21 PM
ugordan QUOTE (MarkG @ Jul 12 2009, 06:21 PM) Mes... Jul 12 2009, 04:27 PM

MarkG QUOTE (ugordan @ Jul 12 2009, 08:27 AM) I... Jul 12 2009, 08:46 PM
Paolo By the way, this year marks the 150th anniversary ... Jul 14 2009, 07:04 AM
mps There is an article about vulcanoids in Wikipedia. Jul 9 2009, 05:26 PM
Greg Hullender Just half an orbit away now. (Messenger's orb... Aug 3 2009, 05:12 AM
dmuller QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Aug 3 2009, 03:12... Aug 3 2009, 06:31 AM
stevesliva Just got an email with a 5-year milestone press re... Aug 3 2009, 03:13 PM
Greg Hullender That suggests they might be able to have quite the... Aug 3 2009, 06:52 PM
Vultur QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Aug 3 2009, 07:52... Aug 30 2009, 08:55 PM
Holder of the Two Leashes Opportunities for magnetometer - Flyby 3 Aug 20 2009, 04:03 PM
MarkG Does anyone know of a detailed diagram of the flyb... Sep 8 2009, 01:15 AM
Hungry4info You could download Celestia and the MESSENGER add-... Sep 8 2009, 02:39 PM
gndonald The page outlining the plans for the third flyby i... Sep 9 2009, 01:42 AM
dmuller Haven't been able to find much information yet... Sep 9 2009, 04:03 AM
MarkG Thanks for the tip on Celestia -- I'm working ... Sep 10 2009, 04:21 PM
Holder of the Two Leashes Some new diagrams showing picture plans were put u... Sep 15 2009, 02:45 PM
stevesliva QUOTE (Holder of the Two Leashes @ Sep 15 200... Sep 15 2009, 03:46 PM
tanjent Well then it seems like for the moment I should pu... Sep 16 2009, 09:30 AM
djellison Hmm - I wouldn't fancy that observation too mu... Sep 16 2009, 10:21 AM
dmuller That would be the shot:
Source: http://space.jp... Sep 16 2009, 01:20 PM
gndonald Preparations for the third flyby
They still have ... Sep 17 2009, 12:15 AM
kohare QUOTE (gndonald @ Sep 17 2009, 01:15 AM) ... Sep 26 2009, 12:56 AM
tanjent The mission website discussion of the orbital phas... Sep 17 2009, 01:00 AM
tedstryk While we are waiting, I have added my Mariner 10 s... Sep 20 2009, 12:56 PM
4th rock from the sun ExcellentMariner 10 images! And a very nice jo... Sep 21 2009, 11:58 AM
tedstryk Thanks. I made them just before the first Messeng... Sep 21 2009, 02:26 PM
Greg Hullender James Leary has discussed a possible extended miss... Sep 21 2009, 06:15 PM
Greg Hullender The Messenger team will be doing a press conferenc... Sep 22 2009, 03:48 PM
elakdawalla QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Sep 22 2009, 07:4... Sep 22 2009, 04:18 PM
Greg Hullender There is a nice map, just posted today, showing th... Sep 22 2009, 03:56 PM
elakdawalla QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Sep 22 2009, 07:5... Sep 22 2009, 06:51 PM
Greg Hullender QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Sep 22 2009, 10:51 A... Sep 22 2009, 07:35 PM
dmuller Does anybody have the flyby timeline in spreadshee... Sep 23 2009, 01:08 AM
Greg Hullender Another press release today:
http://messenger.jhu... Sep 23 2009, 06:26 PM
Greg Hullender Another Messenger update, this one has a new photo... Sep 25 2009, 06:24 PM
dmuller I have uploaded Emily's flyby blog onto my rea... Sep 26 2009, 01:56 AM
Phil Stooke This is the first Mercury 3 image release enlarged... Sep 27 2009, 03:51 AM
Phil Stooke The latest image, enlarged, terminator brightened ... Sep 28 2009, 10:51 AM
Hungry4info Latest image from the website, showing essentially... Sep 29 2009, 01:55 PM
Phil Stooke And here's what he gets by enlarging, selectiv... Sep 29 2009, 02:25 PM
Ant103 My own sharpenning of the last picture of Messenge... Sep 29 2009, 08:08 PM
HughFromAlice QUOTE (Ant103 @ Sep 30 2009, 05:38 AM) My... Sep 30 2009, 11:01 AM
ngunn Surprised no-one has commented on this glitch here... Sep 30 2009, 11:14 AM
djellison QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 30 2009, 12:14 PM) but... Sep 30 2009, 12:38 PM
peter59 Better view into new territory.
http://messenger.j... Sep 30 2009, 12:34 PM
ngunn That's reassuring, thanks Doug.
I think the l... Sep 30 2009, 01:20 PM
Phil Stooke This is the new view converted to an (approximate)... Sep 30 2009, 01:28 PM
Juramike QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Sep 30 2009, 09:28 A... Sep 30 2009, 02:17 PM
elakdawalla The latest, via Twitter, is that MESSENGER safed j... Sep 30 2009, 01:59 PM
ugordan QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Sep 30 2009, 03:59 P... Sep 30 2009, 03:08 PM
elakdawalla QUOTE (ugordan @ Sep 30 2009, 07:08 AM) C... Sep 30 2009, 03:56 PM
Hungry4info New, nice image.
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/galle... Sep 30 2009, 02:47 PM
Stu That just clinches it: there's an alien ship o... Sep 30 2009, 04:34 PM
Phil Stooke A couple more reprojections:
Phil Sep 30 2009, 04:46 PM
mps Yes, back in the old days, we didn't know to f... Sep 30 2009, 06:57 PM
antipode Some nice crater chains approx radial to that doub... Oct 1 2009, 12:31 AM
nprev Great reprojs, Phil!
Noticed a crater that... Oct 1 2009, 12:41 AM
Phil Stooke Yes, and a similarly buried big double-ring basin ... Oct 1 2009, 12:44 AM
nprev I was struck by this one's symmetry...didn... Oct 1 2009, 12:53 AM
JohnVV it will be nice when the images get here
http://p... Oct 1 2009, 07:17 AM
tanjent OK, no serious harm done this time but I sure hope... Oct 1 2009, 01:46 PM
ugordan QUOTE (tanjent @ Oct 1 2009, 03:46 PM) OK... Oct 1 2009, 02:59 PM
Sunspot Maybe this story can shed some light on it? http:/... Oct 1 2009, 01:49 PM
elakdawalla Yeah -- fault handling on gravity assist flybys or... Oct 1 2009, 03:05 PM
tanjent Galactic cosmic rays could have impacted the space... Oct 1 2009, 03:07 PM
ugordan QUOTE (tanjent @ Oct 1 2009, 05:07 PM) Th... Oct 1 2009, 03:15 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (tanjent @ Oct 1 2009, 08:07 AM) Th... Oct 1 2009, 03:19 PM
scalbers Here's a version of my map with the Flyby 3 sl... Oct 11 2009, 02:23 PM
scalbers And here is that version...
Steve Oct 11 2009, 04:11 PM
Decepticon Steve great work!
Do you have a Messenger M... Oct 12 2009, 12:40 AM
Hungry4info I can understand Decepticon's father's req... Oct 12 2009, 01:47 AM
scalbers QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Oct 12 2009, 01:47 A... Oct 15 2009, 05:25 PM
tedstryk The Mariner 10 data that really looks different is... Oct 15 2009, 05:53 PM
JohnVV QUOTE Do you have a Messenger Map Only version? (A... Oct 12 2009, 08:16 PM
scalbers Greetings, here is a MESSENGER only version that D... Oct 24 2009, 05:22 PM
scalbers ...and an updated version of the one including Mar... Oct 24 2009, 05:45 PM
Decepticon WOW! Thanks scalbers! Oct 25 2009, 02:59 AM
Phil Stooke The latest release, a distant view - enlarged and ... Oct 27 2009, 12:49 PM
Paolo apologies for resurrecting this old thread, but Sc... Jul 16 2010, 07:30 AM![]() ![]() |
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