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Jul 17 2009, 02:52 PM
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Thought this deserved a new thread- we can't talk about EVERY LRO target in the one thread
I made a mistake in this one - I didn't include the thruster plume guards. My MER/MPF simulation for HiRISE seemed to come out about right - so fingers crossed that this will be there or there abouts as well. Still in a comissioning phase, something of a slant angle - I'd expect approx 1.5m/pixel if it's at the 120km figure mentioned earlier. |
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Jul 19 2009, 10:01 PM
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At the beginning of this thread there is some discussion about the visiblity of the flags. Doubtless this will be re-visited when higher-res images of the sites become available. If still upright, we'd perhaps be looking for a shadow, or if fallen over (as at the Apollo 11 site), we'd expect to see a bright rectangular object.
HOWEVER, in the opinion of the guy whose company made the flags out of nylon and sold them to NASA for $5.50 each.... they will have gone brittle, disintegrated and turned to "ashes". I suppose here might be a stain left, but maybe not even that. Air & Space mag Finding Apollo |
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Jul 19 2009, 10:34 PM
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HOWEVER, in the opinion of the guy whose company made the flags out of nylon...[/url] With all due respect, it's not like this guy is a materials scientist or anything -- I doubt he has much idea of what vacuum exposure and temperature extremes will do to nylon (and I don't either, but I suspect the lunar environment is more benign than one might think -- most degradation of nylon on LDEF was from atomic oxygen, which is totally absent on the Moon.) We use nylon tie-wraps on instrument cables routinely. Fading of the flag from UV exposure seems almost inevitable, though. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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djellison Apollo Sites from LRO Jul 17 2009, 02:52 PM
Phil Stooke First glimpse...:
http://www.spaceref.com/news/vi... Jul 17 2009, 04:10 PM
Paolo LRO Sees Apollo Landing Sites
I had been expecting... Jul 17 2009, 04:21 PM
Phil Stooke And more:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/m... Jul 17 2009, 04:23 PM
NGC3314 Are those LRV tracks from Apollo 17? They look abo... Jul 17 2009, 04:26 PM
Stu Expected better? Sorry there are no individual foo... Jul 17 2009, 04:27 PM
Paolo QUOTE (Stu @ Jul 17 2009, 06:27 PM) Bette... Jul 17 2009, 04:30 PM
Tubo Hello everybody!
Finally the images arrived... Jul 17 2009, 04:29 PM
djellison QUOTE (Tubo @ Jul 17 2009, 05:29 PM) Do y... Jul 17 2009, 04:45 PM
FordPrefect Wow, this is so cool!
I don't know, I su... Jul 17 2009, 04:39 PM
djellison I was expecting a bit better. You can see the se... Jul 17 2009, 04:43 PM
Phil Stooke Apollo 15 - certainly see the tracks all around AL... Jul 17 2009, 04:46 PM
Phil Stooke Fordprefect - no, Geophone rock is casting the sha... Jul 17 2009, 04:48 PM
nprev It'll get better, but for now I'm really h... Jul 17 2009, 04:55 PM
stevesliva QUOTE (nprev @ Jul 17 2009, 12:55 PM) It... Jul 18 2009, 01:55 AM
Phil Stooke Here's Apollo 17, first quick look.
Phil
T... Jul 17 2009, 04:57 PM
Paul Fjeld YeeHAHHH!!
Great stuff! I make out th... Jul 17 2009, 05:11 PM
Ian R LRO view of Apollo 15 compared to mosaic made from... Jul 17 2009, 05:06 PM
Tubo So far it seems that the Apollo 14 Landing site sh... Jul 17 2009, 05:08 PM
belleraphon1 QUOTE (Tubo @ Jul 17 2009, 12:08 PM) So f... Jul 17 2009, 05:43 PM
djellison A combination of shuffling astronauts and dragged ... Jul 17 2009, 05:10 PM
Phil Stooke Now you can zoomify the whole images at the LROC s... Jul 17 2009, 05:11 PM
Phil Stooke The north end of the Apollo 11 image came within a... Jul 17 2009, 05:16 PM
Ian R Apollo 17 ascent and LRO comparision:
Jul 17 2009, 05:20 PM
FordPrefect Yes Phil, I concur with the Geophone rock shadow... Jul 17 2009, 05:22 PM
Paul Fjeld QUOTE (FordPrefect)I know this is a wild guess for... Jul 17 2009, 05:57 PM
Ian R Apollo 11 ascent and LRO comparison:
Jul 17 2009, 05:38 PM
Ian R Apollo 16 ascent footage frame / LRO comparison:
... Jul 17 2009, 05:57 PM
jmknapp Wow. LRO has really come out of the gate hitting o... Jul 17 2009, 06:05 PM
Tubo QUOTE Or maybe the big S-band deployable antenna..... Jul 17 2009, 06:05 PM
FordPrefect QUOTE (Paul Fjeld @ Jul 17 2009, 07:57 PM... Jul 17 2009, 07:06 PM
Paul Fjeld Even on its side, its bigger than the MET...
QUO... Jul 17 2009, 07:09 PM
Tubo QUOTE (FordPrefect @ Jul 17 2009, 08:06 P... Jul 17 2009, 07:16 PM
Paul Fjeld Anybody else having trouble finding the landing si... Jul 17 2009, 07:46 PM
Ian R Apollo 14 ascent / LRO comparison - the black arro... Jul 17 2009, 06:06 PM
Ian R Apollo 11 descent footage frame compared to LRO vi... Jul 17 2009, 06:26 PM
Ian R Probable locations of LRVs (definite in the case o... Jul 17 2009, 06:31 PM
Paul Fjeld The main NASA LRO site has larger views centered a... Jul 17 2009, 07:05 PM
jmknapp QUOTE (Ian R @ Jul 17 2009, 02:31 PM) Pro... Jul 17 2009, 08:19 PM
Phil Stooke Look on the extreme right side - Triplet crater on... Jul 17 2009, 07:51 PM
Paul Fjeld Thanks! Maybe an eighth of the image height ab... Jul 17 2009, 08:18 PM
belleraphon1 QUOTE (Paul Fjeld @ Jul 17 2009, 03:18 PM... Jul 17 2009, 08:36 PM
belleraphon1 Ok... I just submitted post #41 and now I think I ... Jul 17 2009, 08:39 PM
dilo Sirs, I am speechless, first due to these LRO imag... Jul 17 2009, 09:59 PM
dvandorn Seems strange to see the sites with sun from the w... Jul 17 2009, 11:21 PM
PDP8E Here is an attempt to enhance the immediate Apollo... Jul 17 2009, 11:51 PM
charborob Here's an interesting view: a crop of the Apol... Jul 18 2009, 12:26 AM
Paul Fjeld QUOTE (charborob)Here's an interesting view: a... Jul 18 2009, 01:23 AM
jmknapp Maybe they'll wait until they get even closer ... Jul 18 2009, 12:47 AM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (jmknapp @ Jul 17 2009, 04:47 PM) o... Jul 18 2009, 12:52 AM
Paul Fjeld One of LRO's goals is to characterize possible... Jul 18 2009, 01:08 AM
nprev One of my nightmares, too.
Fortunately, I'm ... Jul 18 2009, 12:58 AM
jmknapp QUOTE (nprev @ Jul 17 2009, 08:58 PM) EDI... Jul 18 2009, 01:07 AM
jekbradbury Another attempt on the A11 image, using GIMP's... Jul 18 2009, 01:02 AM
ilbasso QUOTE (jekbradbury @ Jul 17 2009, 08:02 P... Jul 18 2009, 12:41 PM
dvandorn Paul, I think I see a higher population of boulder... Jul 18 2009, 01:31 AM
Paul Fjeld Very good point. So it will be interesting when th... Jul 18 2009, 01:39 AM
robspace54 Armstrong's said something like that the auto-... Jul 18 2009, 02:03 AM
Paul Fjeld No question he was right! My interest is in ho... Jul 18 2009, 02:09 AM
PDP8E Jekbradury...awesome de-stripe-ing!! Jul 18 2009, 01:54 AM
robspace54 I found these scans on the Apollo Surface Journal.... Jul 18 2009, 02:11 AM
robspace54 This one is a vertical view from the Eagle during ... Jul 18 2009, 02:14 AM
glennwsmith Belleraphon1, even before reading your posts re th... Jul 18 2009, 08:51 AM
robspace54 QUOTE (glennwsmith @ Jul 18 2009, 03:51 A... Jul 18 2009, 01:26 PM
belleraphon1 QUOTE (robspace54 @ Jul 18 2009, 08:26 AM... Jul 18 2009, 04:52 PM
NickF QUOTE (belleraphon1 @ Jul 18 2009, 05:52 ... Jul 19 2009, 11:01 AM
robspace54 ADMIN EDIT
Looks like Pierre Mion got it right... Jul 18 2009, 01:52 PM
jekbradbury Here's the Apollo 14 landing site, with the sa... Jul 18 2009, 04:30 PM
ilbasso This processing technique "doubles" some... Jul 18 2009, 04:40 PM
Phil Stooke A bit more on Apollo 14:
The tracks from Statio... Jul 18 2009, 04:41 PM
Paul Fjeld QUOTE (Phil Stooke)The tracks from Station A to St... Jul 18 2009, 05:25 PM
lyford Can't wait for Apollo 12 and the images of an ... Jul 18 2009, 06:04 PM
Phil Stooke This is Apollo 17 station 6, the big split boulder... Jul 18 2009, 08:19 PM
Phil Stooke This is Apollo 17 station 5 on the edge of Camelot... Jul 18 2009, 09:11 PM
Stu QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 18 2009, 10:11 P... Jul 18 2009, 09:48 PM
Phil Stooke Yes, that one. Pretty nice, huh?
Phil Jul 18 2009, 09:56 PM
Stu QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 18 2009, 10:56 P... Jul 18 2009, 10:35 PM
climber I like it. Anyway, what would be nice will be to p... Jul 19 2009, 11:49 AM
Lightning Very nice job guys, the images are really great ... Jul 19 2009, 12:07 PM
Stu Stunning image processing work guys, I'm in aw... Jul 19 2009, 12:18 PM
Zvezdichko QUOTE (Stu @ Jul 19 2009, 12:18 PM) Apoll... Jul 19 2009, 02:07 PM
Stu QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Jul 19 2009, 03:07 PM... Jul 19 2009, 06:17 PM
nprev Working fine now, Stu. Excellent post! Jul 19 2009, 06:26 PM
dvandorn I know it has a lot to do with a variety of factor... Jul 19 2009, 06:36 PM
Gsnorgathon QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jul 19 2009, 07:36 PM) ... Jul 20 2009, 05:53 PM
dvandorn BTW -- my roommate seemed a little disappointed wi... Jul 19 2009, 06:41 PM
John Moore QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jul 19 2009, 07:41 PM) ... Jul 19 2009, 08:21 PM
Stu Sorry, but you can forget looking for the flag...
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nprev <shaking fist> @$%# LUNAR RODENT!... Jul 20 2009, 12:13 AM
dvandorn Which reminds me -- I would have to imagine that t... Jul 20 2009, 12:59 AM
Stu Some very interesting stuff on this forum's LR... Jul 20 2009, 10:16 AM
jmknapp QUOTE (Stu @ Jul 20 2009, 06:16 AM) Some ... Jul 20 2009, 12:04 PM

climber QUOTE (jmknapp @ Jul 20 2009, 02:04 PM) B... Jul 20 2009, 12:21 PM

Paul Fjeld Some really good analysis "a la française.... Jul 20 2009, 01:05 PM

Stu QUOTE (Paul Fjeld @ Jul 20 2009, 02:05 PM... Jul 20 2009, 01:32 PM

jmknapp QUOTE (Paul Fjeld @ Jul 20 2009, 09:05 AM... Jul 20 2009, 05:35 PM
climber QUOTE (Stu @ Jul 20 2009, 12:16 PM) Some ... Jul 20 2009, 12:15 PM
Phil Stooke Thanks! You've done your good deed for th... Jul 20 2009, 05:48 PM![]() ![]() |
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