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[djellison]

Thought I'd kick off a thread just for this.

Todays program is here
http://www.uk.amsat.org/content/view/679/266/1/1/
Ed and Fergus from CU Spaceflight are on at 1440

Tomorrow
http://www.uk.amsat.org/content/view/679/266/1/2/
I'm on at 1120

Live streaming is available - http://batc.tv/ch_live.php (and is up now)

Enjoy.

[dvandorn]

Yep -- ESA should have a "no bucks, no Buck Rogers" talk with the European scientific community. Remind them that they can do whatever they want in terms of funding the instruments, but without a ride to the planet of their choice, they'll never be able to use them. And that, with such pathetic data flow imposed upon ESA by the PIs and no apparent interest in outreach by the scientific community, the rides will all go away -- sooner rather than later -- unless something changes soon.

While I am 100% behind scientific research, it is very true that too many of these people have been living in ivory towers for so long that they don't have a clue how things work out here in the Real World. The educators need an education.

-the other Doug

[cotopaxi]

Yep -- ESA should have a "no bucks, no Buck Rogers" talk with the European scientific community. Remind them that they can do whatever they want in terms of funding the instruments, but without a ride to the planet of their choice, they'll never be able to use them. And that, with such pathetic data flow imposed upon ESA by the PIs and no apparent interest in outreach by the scientific community, the rides will all go away -- sooner rather than later -- unless something changes soon.

It is more complex. The contribution from the member states is ESA´s only significant funding source. And the member states are not necessarily interested in the data rights being transferred from "their" national institutes to ESA. Many policy decisions are prepared by ESA´s advisory structure, and the national delegates there are frequently representants from the same organisations as those who build the instruments (in certain cases even the same people).

Data release certainly needs to be quicker and archiving faster, and I am confident it will. But given the constellation, it will need some time.