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Non-targeted flyby September 22, 2009, first look at the north pole in daylight
ngunn
post Sep 9 2009, 12:50 PM
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Compare the predicted view in the latest 'looking ahead'

http://ciclops.org/view/5825/Rev_118

with the nothern hemisphere polar map:
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post Sep 9 2009, 01:08 PM
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With reference to the Ciclops view I wonder if we'll be able to see if the four great 'Siberian rivers' at 9 0'clock (7 o'clock on the second image above) continue all the way to the polar seas?
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post Sep 10 2009, 04:37 AM
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QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 9 2009, 08:08 AM) *
With reference to the Ciclops view I wonder if we'll be able to see if the four great 'Siberian rivers' at 9 0'clock (7 o'clock on the second image above) continue all the way to the polar seas?


Very neat images!!! Those curvilinear forms seem to gather ‘tributaries’ and head north. However they have been imaged (in T 30) at lower resolution SAR and do not appear very river like. (see image sequence below). Perhaps they are older valleys partially filled in with mid latitude atmospheric deposits; maybe some crustal tectonics produced them rather than running methane torrents. The channel of T 30 seemed to end long before the large lake coastline. Agree additional ISS imaging will be interesting nevertheless.

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post Sep 10 2009, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE (titanicrivers @ Sep 10 2009, 05:37 AM) *
Very neat images


Yes, but unlike yourself, Mike and others I don't make them but merely link back to them when relevant. smile.gif

I agree, it's far too early to say what the 'Siberian rivers' actually are. I only give them that nickname because of their general appearance, scale and geographical location. On the evidence so far I would say they have probably been either formed or modified by liquid flow in a northerly direction, though not necessarily very recently. It will be fascinating to see if the new images confirm or alter this impression. If there is evidence of flow it will also be interesting to compare with the present regional gradient. A global elevation map of Titan was published recently - the one on wich Xanadu surprisingly turned out to be a depression. I'll try to find and post that link if nobody else does first. It would make an interesting additional layer on your excellent composites.

Ah - here's the paper:
https://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/324/5929/921
https://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/324/5929/921

EDIT :I don't have access to the full paper and can't find the Fig 3 elevation map anywhere, except in this tiny version -
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post Sep 15 2009, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 10 2009, 05:06 AM) *
A global elevation map of Titan was published recently - the one on wich Xanadu surprisingly turned out to be a depression. I'll try to find and post that link if nobody else does first. It would make an interesting additional layer on your excellent composites.


An excellent suggestion! I was able to obtain the entire paper and although the paper tends to downplay correlation of surface features with the calculated regional elevations, (excepting the occurrence of lakes at the lower poles), the Titan ellipsoidal surface map does portray higher and lower regions that are of interest. For the "Siberian Rivers" region the surface suggest a higher to lower gradient concordant with the implied direction of flow of these channels as they roughly follow the course of the T30 SAR swath (see below).

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- ngunn   Non-targeted flyby September 22, 2009   Sep 9 2009, 12:50 PM
- - ngunn   With reference to the Ciclops view I wonder if we...   Sep 9 2009, 01:08 PM
|- - titanicrivers   QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 9 2009, 08:08 AM) With...   Sep 10 2009, 04:37 AM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (titanicrivers @ Sep 10 2009, 05:37...   Sep 10 2009, 10:06 AM
|- - titanicrivers   QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 10 2009, 05:06 AM) A g...   Sep 15 2009, 10:48 PM
- - titanicrivers   T 21 also crosses some of the 'Siberean channe...   Sep 10 2009, 06:39 AM
- - Juramike   I don't think Titan has yet revealed the full ...   Sep 11 2009, 01:34 AM
- - ngunn   Looks like support for the possibility of flow at ...   Sep 16 2009, 01:35 PM
|- - titanicrivers   QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 16 2009, 08:35 AM) Loo...   Sep 17 2009, 08:36 AM
- - ngunn   Hey - that's brilliant, thanks!! I se...   Sep 17 2009, 09:47 AM
|- - titanicrivers   I see that the Adiri high is nicely placed to fit ...   Sep 18 2009, 03:48 PM
|- - titanicrivers   QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 17 2009, 04:47 AM) Hey...   Sep 19 2009, 03:49 PM
- - ngunn   That is nice, indeed, even though the resolution o...   Sep 19 2009, 05:41 PM
- - ngunn   Looks like Cassini has been lucky with the weather...   Sep 24 2009, 06:43 PM
- - volcanopele   Are you telling me we actually saw clouds, lots of...   Sep 24 2009, 08:31 PM
- - remcook   Lots of them! http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photo...   Sep 25 2009, 07:55 AM
|- - Juramike   QUOTE (remcook @ Sep 25 2009, 03:55 AM) L...   Sep 28 2009, 02:07 PM
- - volcanopele   Blar!! Another one!??! I WANT sle...   Sep 25 2009, 09:04 AM
- - titanicrivers   Me too .... Approximate location below.   Sep 25 2009, 09:19 AM
- - belleraphon1   How beautiful those clouds look. I still have to...   Sep 25 2009, 03:45 PM
- - titanicrivers   There's not only beauty in those clouds but al...   Sep 26 2009, 04:41 AM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (titanicrivers @ Sep 26 2009, 05:41...   Sep 26 2009, 09:23 AM
- - remcook   Titanicrivers- I don't think these are the eth...   Sep 26 2009, 01:40 PM
|- - titanicrivers   QUOTE (remcook @ Sep 26 2009, 08:40 AM) T...   Sep 26 2009, 02:20 PM
- - remcook   Yes, global circulation models also predict these ...   Sep 26 2009, 05:13 PM
- - ngunn   I haven't read the paper but the abstract says...   Sep 27 2009, 12:27 AM
- - ngunn   I think it's worth comparing the cloud locatio...   Sep 27 2009, 09:20 AM
|- - titanicrivers   QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 27 2009, 04:20 AM) I t...   Sep 27 2009, 10:02 PM
- - ngunn   OK I've tried to do a graphic (please don...   Sep 28 2009, 08:50 AM
- - climber   RE: Non-targeted flyby September 22, 2009   Sep 28 2009, 09:44 AM
- - ngunn   Nice to know the link works.   Sep 28 2009, 10:15 AM
- - climber   RE: Non-targeted flyby September 22, 2009   Sep 28 2009, 10:25 AM
- - HughFromAlice   Titan is just such an interesting place! Looki...   Sep 28 2009, 01:41 PM
- - remcook   This mostly means the clouds are pretty high. This...   Sep 28 2009, 02:28 PM


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