The Martian Sky |
The Martian Sky |
Oct 11 2009, 06:41 PM
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I have been attempting to make computer generated images of the Martian atmosphere, both as seen from the surface and from space. To check the results I have been looking for spacecraft images to use as ground truth. I have found lots of images - by far the best ones I have found are from UMSF in this thread: http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=3324
However, I'm always looking for more ;-). So if anyone knows of more and/or better images I'm interested in them. What would be best are mosaics showing the sky from the horizon (with the horizon/surface visible) and towards the zenith. The sky varies a lot because of variable amount of dust but the general impression I get is that the sky is bright near the horizon (usually brighter than the surface) but gets much darker higher in the sky. There is probably a fairly large, bright area in the sky near the sun, possibly less reddish (lower R/B ratio) than parts of the sky farther from the sun. I'm already getting fairly interesting results, this one has a field of view of 90 degrees: (needless to say this one is 'overexposed' near the horizon; dynamic range is sometimes a problem) The problem is that even though this may not be bad the limb currently appears far too bright as seen from space : This shows that my atmospheric model is erroneous in some way - I suspect that as seen from the surface the Martian sky is darker high above the horizon than I have been assuming. |
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Oct 13 2009, 08:42 AM
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The first image seems very good for me. Don't know if you know, but with Terragen you can made very good sky, with various parameters like intensity of atmospheric scattering, or dust opacity (and color).
Don't know if it's accurate but I like make "artificial" skies like here : ![]() ![]() You can also have a look on this galery of picture from Olivier : http://www.planete-mars.com/goursac/2006/vision2.html -------------------- |
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Oct 13 2009, 05:15 PM
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with Terragen I've dabbled with Terragen, but not much. It would save a LOT of rendering time to pre-render a nice sky like that in Terragen, then map that to a sky hemisphere in 3ds max rather than using Dreamscape. Do you have a save file for that Terragen render as a starting point (or a list of parameters) |
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Bjorn Jonsson The Martian Sky Oct 11 2009, 06:41 PM
djellison That first image is surprisingly (and pleasingly) ... Oct 11 2009, 07:29 PM
ngunn I expect you've seen this paper (one of my fav... Oct 11 2009, 09:24 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Oct 11 2009, 10:41... Oct 13 2009, 04:48 PM
Bjorn Jonsson QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Oct 13 2009, 04:48 PM... Oct 14 2009, 12:49 AM
mwolff QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Oct 13 2009, 06:49... Oct 15 2009, 03:32 PM
vikingmars ...And here is a photo controlled mosaic showing t... Oct 14 2009, 10:43 PM
djellison All those words and 'sky hemisphere' didn... Oct 15 2009, 10:12 PM
ngunn Sorry - who's Mike? - and who mentioned 's... Oct 15 2009, 10:39 PM
djellison Check the bottom of http://pancam.astro.cornell.ed... Oct 16 2009, 05:59 AM
ngunn Much appreciated, thanks Doug. I'll start agit... Oct 16 2009, 07:38 AM
DDAVIS I wish they would place a hemispherical mirror som... Oct 16 2009, 07:53 PM
Ant103 Hum… I will better prefer a camera with a fisheye ... Oct 16 2009, 08:26 PM
DDAVIS So would I, but the mirror should be easier to arr... Oct 16 2009, 11:01 PM
djellison It would also be a lot lighter. Beagle 2 used a w... Oct 17 2009, 08:41 AM
Ant103 Here is the settings of the atmosphere in TG2, set... Oct 17 2009, 11:32 AM
Bjorn Jonsson QUOTE (Ant103 @ Oct 17 2009, 11:32 AM) He... Oct 19 2009, 12:58 AM
vikingmars Bjorn, your test images and simulations are really... Oct 20 2009, 07:47 AM
mwolff QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Oct 18 2009, 07:58... Oct 20 2009, 04:53 PM
Bjorn Jonsson QUOTE (mwolff @ Oct 20 2009, 04:53 PM) I ... Oct 21 2009, 05:39 PM
Bjorn Jonsson I have now made significant improvements to my ren... Dec 1 2009, 12:33 AM
vikingmars Really interesting Bjorn ! My 1st impression i... Dec 1 2009, 07:11 PM

Bjorn Jonsson Which reminds me - there really should be a test r... Dec 1 2009, 11:49 PM
Bjorn Jonsson QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Dec 1 2009, 12:33 ... Dec 22 2009, 11:31 PM
tolis One question that is relevant to the appearance of... Oct 21 2009, 01:09 PM
vikingmars QUOTE (tolis @ Oct 21 2009, 03:09 PM) One... Oct 21 2009, 01:37 PM
djellison Don't encourage him Bjorn Dec 2 2009, 08:15 AM
DDAVIS I would like to encourage a small hemispheric mirr... Dec 2 2009, 08:04 PM
James Sorenson I have imagined a modified MER hazcam camera, but ... Dec 2 2009, 09:17 PM
hendric Don,
Some experiments and deconvolution software... Dec 2 2009, 10:44 PM
mcaplinger An all-sky pan with the 34mm Mastcam on MSL wouldn... Dec 2 2009, 11:55 PM
mwolff --- unnecessary quoting removed ---
That would be... Dec 3 2009, 03:13 PM![]() ![]() |
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