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I have been attempting to make computer generated images of the Martian atmosphere, both as seen from the surface and from space. To check the results I have been looking for spacecraft images to use as ground truth. I have found lots of images - by far the best ones I have found are from UMSF in this thread: http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=3324
However, I'm always looking for more ;-). So if anyone knows of more and/or better images I'm interested in them. What would be best are mosaics showing the sky from the horizon (with the horizon/surface visible) and towards the zenith. The sky varies a lot because of variable amount of dust but the general impression I get is that the sky is bright near the horizon (usually brighter than the surface) but gets much darker higher in the sky. There is probably a fairly large, bright area in the sky near the sun, possibly less reddish (lower R/B ratio) than parts of the sky farther from the sun. I'm already getting fairly interesting results, this one has a field of view of 90 degrees: (needless to say this one is 'overexposed' near the horizon; dynamic range is sometimes a problem) The problem is that even though this may not be bad the limb currently appears far too bright as seen from space : This shows that my atmospheric model is erroneous in some way - I suspect that as seen from the surface the Martian sky is darker high above the horizon than I have been assuming. |
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Bjorn Jonsson The Martian Sky Oct 11 2009, 06:41 PM
djellison That first image is surprisingly (and pleasingly) ... Oct 11 2009, 07:29 PM
ngunn I expect you've seen this paper (one of my fav... Oct 11 2009, 09:24 PM
Ant103 The first image seems very good for me. Don't ... Oct 13 2009, 08:42 AM
djellison QUOTE (Ant103 @ Oct 13 2009, 09:42 AM) wi... Oct 13 2009, 05:15 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Oct 11 2009, 10:41... Oct 13 2009, 04:48 PM
Bjorn Jonsson QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Oct 13 2009, 04:48 PM... Oct 14 2009, 12:49 AM
mwolff QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Oct 13 2009, 06:49... Oct 15 2009, 03:32 PM
vikingmars ...And here is a photo controlled mosaic showing t... Oct 14 2009, 10:43 PM
djellison All those words and 'sky hemisphere' didn... Oct 15 2009, 10:12 PM
ngunn Sorry - who's Mike? - and who mentioned 's... Oct 15 2009, 10:39 PM
djellison Check the bottom of http://pancam.astro.cornell.ed... Oct 16 2009, 05:59 AM
ngunn Much appreciated, thanks Doug. I'll start agit... Oct 16 2009, 07:38 AM
DDAVIS I wish they would place a hemispherical mirror som... Oct 16 2009, 07:53 PM
Ant103 Hum… I will better prefer a camera with a fisheye ... Oct 16 2009, 08:26 PM
DDAVIS So would I, but the mirror should be easier to arr... Oct 16 2009, 11:01 PM
djellison It would also be a lot lighter. Beagle 2 used a w... Oct 17 2009, 08:41 AM
Ant103 Here is the settings of the atmosphere in TG2, set... Oct 17 2009, 11:32 AM
Bjorn Jonsson QUOTE (Ant103 @ Oct 17 2009, 11:32 AM) He... Oct 19 2009, 12:58 AM
vikingmars Bjorn, your test images and simulations are really... Oct 20 2009, 07:47 AM
mwolff QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Oct 18 2009, 07:58... Oct 20 2009, 04:53 PM
Bjorn Jonsson QUOTE (mwolff @ Oct 20 2009, 04:53 PM) I ... Oct 21 2009, 05:39 PM
Bjorn Jonsson I have now made significant improvements to my ren... Dec 1 2009, 12:33 AM
vikingmars Really interesting Bjorn ! My 1st impression i... Dec 1 2009, 07:11 PM

Bjorn Jonsson Which reminds me - there really should be a test r... Dec 1 2009, 11:49 PM
Bjorn Jonsson QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Dec 1 2009, 12:33 ... Dec 22 2009, 11:31 PM
tolis One question that is relevant to the appearance of... Oct 21 2009, 01:09 PM
vikingmars QUOTE (tolis @ Oct 21 2009, 03:09 PM) One... Oct 21 2009, 01:37 PM
djellison Don't encourage him Bjorn Dec 2 2009, 08:15 AM
DDAVIS I would like to encourage a small hemispheric mirr... Dec 2 2009, 08:04 PM
James Sorenson I have imagined a modified MER hazcam camera, but ... Dec 2 2009, 09:17 PM
hendric Don,
Some experiments and deconvolution software... Dec 2 2009, 10:44 PM
mcaplinger An all-sky pan with the 34mm Mastcam on MSL wouldn... Dec 2 2009, 11:55 PM
mwolff --- unnecessary quoting removed ---
That would be... Dec 3 2009, 03:13 PM
scalbers Nice animation above by Bjorn from 2009. Here... Jan 26 2014, 11:06 PM
scalbers Here is a more direct link to the recent paper tha... May 12 2015, 06:59 PM
Deimos Yes, I was a bit annoyed by that APOD comment. The... May 14 2015, 02:39 AM
scalbers Here's a simulation with my latest software fo... Sep 19 2016, 06:28 PM
neo56 Amazing work Scalbers, that's a really nice pr... Sep 28 2016, 05:12 PM
scalbers Thanks Thomas, and glad they can be used in your m... Oct 2 2016, 03:13 PM
scalbers Greetings,
Considering that light can reflect off... Oct 30 2016, 08:27 PM
scalbers I can report on some progress with a Monte Carlo p... Jan 28 2018, 09:46 PM
fredk I'm curious what are the differences between t... Jan 28 2018, 10:18 PM
scalbers Indeed both techniques involve tracing of light ra... Jan 29 2018, 01:09 AM
antipode If you looked up on an average dusty day in Gale C... Jan 29 2018, 02:04 AM
djellison Do you mean at night?
If so - yes - https://www.j... Jan 29 2018, 09:28 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 29 2018, 01:28 PM)... Jan 29 2018, 09:56 PM
elakdawalla Would Jupiter be visible to the naked eye in the d... Jan 29 2018, 11:46 PM
Explorer1 A quick Google search shows that some folks have s... Jan 30 2018, 12:02 AM
scalbers I've seen Jupiter at 10:20am from a high deser... Jan 30 2018, 12:50 AM
Explorer1 QUOTE (scalbers @ Jan 29 2018, 07:50 PM) ... Jan 30 2018, 01:17 AM
antipode Hi all, OP here (at least in terms of Mars' sk... Jan 30 2018, 05:34 AM
scalbers QUOTE (antipode @ Jan 30 2018, 05:34 AM) ... Jan 30 2018, 02:36 PM
ngunn I seem to recall one of the rovers acquired at lea... Jan 30 2018, 09:57 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 30 2018, 01:57 AM) I s... Jan 30 2018, 03:55 PM
scalbers Olympus Mons should be pretty good as I'm gett... Jan 30 2018, 04:45 PM
JRehling I'm not sure how much the martian sky varies, ... Jan 30 2018, 07:29 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 30 2018, 11:29 AM) ... Jan 30 2018, 08:22 PM
fredk QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jan 30 2018, 09:22 PM... Jan 31 2018, 12:20 AM
JRehling Great shot of Phobos, mcaplinger! (I assume th... Jan 31 2018, 04:27 PM
Ant103 Actually, there was a Mastcam mosaic of the sky, n... Jan 30 2018, 11:33 PM
scalbers QUOTE (Ant103 @ Jan 30 2018, 11:33 PM) Ac... Jan 31 2018, 07:39 PM
vikingmars QUOTE (Ant103 @ Jan 31 2018, 12:33 AM) Ac... Jan 31 2018, 08:29 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Ant103 @ Jan 30 2018, 03:33 PM) Ac... Jan 31 2018, 09:11 PM
Deimos Navcam images of Phobos just before & after su... Jan 31 2018, 11:35 PM
scalbers Indeed it's kind of similar to this earlier si... Feb 1 2018, 12:33 AM
scalbers Here is an attempt to generate a similar polar (fi... Feb 4 2018, 12:54 AM
Sean This is wonderful work Steve.... can you please ch... Mar 31 2018, 12:19 AM
scalbers Hi Sean - thanks. Good question - the intent (as b... Mar 31 2018, 12:27 AM
JohnVV normally i use the gui for the vips image lib ... Apr 2 2018, 04:24 AM
scalbers Thanks JohnVV. Revisiting this a bit I made a sequ... Sep 4 2021, 06:31 PM
scalbers Relating to the last linked paper above, I was abl... Dec 5 2021, 09:19 PM
scalbers After looking at some additional papers and doing ... Dec 27 2021, 06:21 PM
scalbers Thanks to Damia's post in a different thread (... Jan 23 2022, 09:09 PM
fredk QUOTE (scalbers @ Jan 23 2022, 10:09 PM) ... Jan 23 2022, 10:37 PM
scalbers QUOTE (fredk @ Jan 23 2022, 10:37 PM) Can... Jan 23 2022, 11:29 PM
Deimos The Sun was saturated in the recent M2020 sunset i... Jan 24 2022, 12:02 AM
Deimos Holy Moly! That Applied Optics paper modeled t... Jan 24 2022, 12:19 AM
scalbers Yes we could still provide the authors with that d... Jan 24 2022, 12:31 AM
scalbers Here's a animated version with -0.15 Angstrom ... Feb 6 2022, 07:44 PM
fredk This MSL navcam image:
https://mars.nasa.gov/msl-... Sep 15 2022, 10:32 PM
climber Any chance it could be zodiacal light instead ? Sep 16 2022, 06:26 AM
djellison QUOTE (climber @ Sep 15 2022, 10:26 PM) A... Sep 16 2022, 02:21 PM
nprev Likely has at least something to do with the scale... Sep 16 2022, 08:04 AM
scalbers As mentioned a longer twilight on Mars relates to ... Sep 16 2022, 04:34 PM
Bill Harris "Do we expect martian twilight to last longer... Sep 19 2022, 03:25 AM
scalbers Earth sky analogy to Mars:
https://www.scmp.com/n... Apr 10 2023, 06:32 PM
scalbers For convenience is there a handy reference to find... Jul 2 2023, 09:50 PM
rlorenz QUOTE (scalbers @ Jul 2 2023, 05:50 PM) F... Jul 4 2023, 04:03 PM
fredk The filename sites for MER and MSL are still up:
... Jul 2 2023, 11:26 PM
mcaplinger https://www.giss.nasa.gov/tools/mars24/ Jul 2 2023, 11:43 PM![]() ![]() |
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