NASA Briefs Preliminary Plume Findings from Moon Mission |
NASA Briefs Preliminary Plume Findings from Moon Mission |
Nov 10 2009, 09:26 PM
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Nov 14 2009, 01:02 PM
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It could be from the strength of the spectral signal against the background.
They said 100kg is the estimated lower limit in the field of view. Many volatiles were quickly vaporized and expanded away. -------------------- "I can easily see still in my mind’s-eye the beautiful clusters of these berries as they appeared to me..., when I came upon an undiscovered bed of them... – the rich clusters drooping in the shade there and bluing all the ground" -- Thoreau
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Nov 14 2009, 05:41 PM
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It could be from the strength of the spectral signal against the background. Right. I thought the 100kg was an estimate of what was actually seen in a narrow field of view and that they are not ready to estimate what was in the entire plume or in the entire excavated area. |
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Nov 14 2009, 06:08 PM
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Right. I thought the 100kg was an estimate of what was actually seen in a narrow field of view and that they are not ready to estimate what was in the entire plume or in the entire excavated area. I already see a discussion on what 100kg means is going on. 100 kg per 20x20kms crater means it's quite dry. But a narrow field would require a whole new line of calculations and investigations, which I don't see it will happen in the next several weeks. |
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Nov 14 2009, 07:44 PM
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I already see a discussion on what 100kg means is going on. 100 kg per 20x20kms crater means it's quite dry. But a narrow field would require a whole new line of calculations and investigations, which I don't see it will happen in the next several weeks. The crater diameter is about 20 meters. This gives roughly 1-10 ppm water by volume, if 100 kg represents the total amount of H2O in the ejecta (which is uncertain). ( 3.14*(10 m)^2 * (2 m) = 10^4 cubic meters; (100 kg H2O) * (1 m^3 / 1000 kg) = 0.1 cubic meter H2O; (0.1 cubic meter H2O) / (10^4 cubic meters total) = 10^-5 = 10 ppm H2O ) ( changing the depth-to-diameter ratio from 1:10 to 1:5 gives roughly 1 ppm H2O. ) |
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briv1016 NASA Briefs Preliminary Plume Findings from Moon Mission Nov 10 2009, 09:26 PM
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Holder of the Two Leashes News conference is ready to start right now.
Edit... Nov 13 2009, 04:59 PM
Phil Stooke NIR pic of the crater - nice!
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Fran Ontanaya They said the plume was magnitude 8 and had a narr... Nov 13 2009, 11:38 PM
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Gsnorgathon Any idea what mass fraction that 100kg represents?... Nov 14 2009, 12:46 AM
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nprev Rats. Swear I saw an estimate for the dimensions o... Nov 14 2009, 01:11 AM
tanjent Colaprete mentioned that at the time the target wa... Nov 14 2009, 03:07 AM
elakdawalla The Centaur crater is 20 or 30 meters in diameter. Nov 14 2009, 03:54 AM
nprev Thanks, Emily.
Well, here's my (probably wron... Nov 14 2009, 04:43 AM
nprev Actually, thinking about this some more, I don... Nov 14 2009, 09:41 AM
remcook My guess for the additional fitted gases in their ... Nov 14 2009, 05:43 PM
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nprev That's an excellent point. Nov 15 2009, 12:08 AM
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marsbug I think you're right! Nov 20 2009, 04:11 PM
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